Sugestion for a new camera

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Sugestion for a new camera

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It's been ages since I had a good camera , we were still using film. I'm looking into a new mirrorless with lens changing capabilities for all around use to start . Cannon and Nikon have caught my eye but I have to admit the choices are mind boggling. I also don't want to break the bank.
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Sony mirrorless are pretty impressive

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Any used Nikon/Canon/Sony or ? will take good pictures. I often use a Nikon D50 which is state of the art for 2010. You can pick these up on the auction site for $50 or so with a kit lens. One can take really good pictures
With this 6MP camera.
I’ve paired this with a 28-80mm lens which is also a bargain. I found this camera much easier to learn on than some of the newer cameras which have more features.
My higher end cameras are a Nikon D7200 and a Canon 80D. I use these with more sophisticated lenses for wildlife photography. Both are fantastic but with a steep learning curve. But they produce amazing pictures.
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A 30+ year pro says... Get a new phone. Load it with your favorite editing software. Unless you want extreme telephoto photos, shouldered cameras are dinosaurs.

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I have to agree.
Get a smartphone. The cameras on phones these days are phenomenal for everything but the most professional demands.

For the longest firmware support I advise an iPhone. That’s around 6 years support and probably 8-10 years with Apple trying to keep longer support as people want to keep using their phone longer. Android phones rarely get support after 3 years which is crazy.

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I'm sold on the Fujifilm mirrorless system. I have an XT-1 that I purchased in 2014. They are currently developing the XT-5 but I see no reason to upgrade. Fujinon lenses are well made and optically superb. I also have a Sony Alpha 7II but it gets nowhere near the use that the Fuji does.

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I needed a new phone AND a new camera.
Cost effectiveness = money well spent.
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TFHough wrote:
01/27/22 15:42
A 30+ year pro says... Get a new phone. Load it with your favorite editing software. Unless you want extreme telephoto photos, shouldered cameras are dinosaurs.
+1 Modern phone cameras are superb, portable, and (if iPhone) link to cloud-based storage automatically - an automatic back-up! Wow.

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I've been a dedicated SLR/DSLR guy for over 40 years, but I can't argue with the versatility and portability of camera phones. Imagery keeps getting better and better -- mostly thanks to AI rather than sensor/optical upgrades -- and I can't argue with results.

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If you want to get further into photography at a reasonable price buy used. I bought a used fuji mirrorless body for 250 and frankly it is darn close to new. Lense prices vary I got a manual focus for 50 with a f-stop 3.5 to take pictures in low light, like when fishing. I do miss the auto Lense but they are much more expensive. I have a bridge camera that's easy to use, for wife n I. Over all the cameras operate way beyond my ability. It's fun if you don't let all the technical things frustrate you. I shoot jpec because I don't want to bother with pic editing and pay for the software. Buy within your reasonable price range as there's plenty of great used buys available. YouTube has tons of free how to vids. When considering a camera they get a little too technical. Thus go with a budget n Lense 1st than body based around what you would like to photograph. Keep it fun.

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Although I am a dinosaur and have WAY too nice cameras I just bring my phone when fishing. It is unobtrusive and more than gets the job done. On the other hand if you want the last word in image quality bring along a camera but make sure you 'make' the time to put it to good use. My go to camera when out hiking is a Sony A6500...there are many good lenses to go along with this camera.
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You need to give us more info on how you intend to use the camera please. Low light? Action / sports? Street photography? Portraits? Pics of fish in one hand camera in the other? Boudoir? Landscape? Are you carrying the camera on the water? And your breaking the bank on a good camera may be different than John doe’s version of breaking the bank for a good camera. What’s your budget and what lenses would you like? Are you savvy with electronics? Do you want full manual control? I can go on and on…. We need a little more than “all around use” please, thanks’

Many are jumping to conclusions and potentially recommending cameras that don’t fit what you are looking for.

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The lenses are going to cost as much as the body, so consider your choices. The advantage of mirrorless cameras is they meter through the lens. If you have Nikon or cannon lenses, you can use them as manual lenses. The only addition to cannon and Nikon I would look at is Sony.

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carlz wrote:
04/05/22 22:11
The lenses are going to cost as much as the body, so consider your choices. The advantage of mirrorless cameras is they meter through the lens. If you have Nikon or cannon lenses, you can use them as manual lenses. The only addition to cannon and Nikon I would look at is Sony.
Definitely. I've been in the Canon camp for years, but the mirrorless Sony system is pretty darned impressive. A coworker just went from a Canon 1D X Mark III to a Sony a1 and says it's insanely good. He was hesitant because of how much money he had tied up in lenses, but says the Sony actually needs fewer lenses to cover the same ground and the weight savings is a huge benefit for what he does (mostly birds).

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If you go with the Nikon mirrorless Z-mount line, you can get an adapter for the F-mount lenses and have full functionality of decades of superb legacy glass. I'm still a DSLR guy and there are a lot of great deals on older bodies with relatively low shutter actuations...so long as the camera is supported by editing software, it'll last you a long time.

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GerardH wrote:
04/28/22 09:15
If you go with the Nikon mirrorless Z-mount line, you can get an adapter for the F-mount lenses and have full functionality of decades of superb legacy glass. I'm still a DSLR guy and there are a lot of great deals on older bodies with relatively low shutter actuations...so long as the camera is supported by editing software, it'll last you a long time.
I'm asking because I don't know...honest. When you say full functionality with the adapter, is it really the same as using a lens made for the mirrorless body? I know Canon offers an adapter so you can use EF lenses on the mirrorless bodies, but I've been told that not all of the processor wizard tricks will work.

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G-ManBart wrote:
04/28/22 20:03
GerardH wrote:
04/28/22 09:15
If you go with the Nikon mirrorless Z-mount line, you can get an adapter for the F-mount lenses and have full functionality of decades of superb legacy glass. I'm still a DSLR guy and there are a lot of great deals on older bodies with relatively low shutter actuations...so long as the camera is supported by editing software, it'll last you a long time.
I'm asking because I don't know...honest. When you say full functionality with the adapter, is it really the same as using a lens made for the mirrorless body? I know Canon offers an adapter so you can use EF lenses on the mirrorless bodies, but I've been told that not all of the processor wizard tricks will work.
I use older nikon, canon, and minolta lenses on my sony NEX cameras with adaptors which allows those great old lenses to but used but they don't have the electronic connection so they have to be used manually for focus and Fstop

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I'm an avid photographer and my advice should be ignored unless you really want to do all you can to create the highest quality images. For most photography the following is overkill, and a waste of money. I've built up a Canon kit over the years which currently includes Canon 5dMarkIV body, Canon 100-400L, Canon 24-105L, Canon 16-35L and filters including polarizing, split neutral density, a 10 stop neutral density and a quality tripod. I'm very happy with my "kit" but there are many other options and most are going with the mirrorless nowadays with Sony generally a top choice. My primary advice, if you want to maximize your photography, is to invest in and learn a photo editing software. I use Lightroom and dabble in Photoshop.
The photo editing is equally important to your final image quality. And I have to admit, a recent model iphone has an uncanny ability to automatically edit what the best pros would do in most instances. They are amazing.

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G-ManBart wrote:
04/28/22 20:03
GerardH wrote:
04/28/22 09:15
If you go with the Nikon mirrorless Z-mount line, you can get an adapter for the F-mount lenses and have full functionality of decades of superb legacy glass. I'm still a DSLR guy and there are a lot of great deals on older bodies with relatively low shutter actuations...so long as the camera is supported by editing software, it'll last you a long time.
I'm asking because I don't know...honest. When you say full functionality with the adapter, is it really the same as using a lens made for the mirrorless body? I know Canon offers an adapter so you can use EF lenses on the mirrorless bodies, but I've been told that not all of the processor wizard tricks will work.

I cannot speak for Canon since I shoot only Nikon, but their adapter retains full electronic functionality for metering and auto-focus for many of their F-mount lenses, I think the adapter is running about $250 There are 3rd-party adapters out there for less; but like anything else, you're chancing how well the electronics integrate with the Nikon body/lens. If I was going with a Nikon Z, I would probably pick this one up as an accessory for the F-mount glass I've collected over the decades:


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I've got a couple of the newer Fuji's but actually my favorite is an old Nikon V1 12 megapixel dinosaur, it's small and take superb photos.
My Samsung takes great photos too though and is even easier to take along.
I also have a really nice pinhole camera made in Hong Kong that I am playing around with.
And of course my old buddy an Olympus OM1n with the Zuiko 40mm Pancake lens that I acquired in 1981, I love that camera.

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