Original Dickerson Rod pamphlets
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#2Wow! Many thanks for sharing your collection of Dickerson memorabilia/records Maniac. Fantastic info. Happy 2020 gift of knowledge indeed!
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#3Although the first pamphlet may not have gone into production, Paul H. Young anticipated in 1934 that it would be printed, and that he would be able to provide copies on Dickerson's behalf. Note the final statement in this brief announcement from page 1 of Young's 1935 tackle catalog, the text for which Young finalized in December 1934:Mainiac wrote:This first pamphlet is circa 1935-38... I think no others have surfaced because it never went into production.
DICKERSON RODS
These rods are precision built from the highest grade materials by an expert workman. Fitted with hand draw ferrules, carefully balanced, line tested and beautifully finished. A limited production of these rods available in lengths of 7 1/2 to 10 ft. at ....... $35.00. Special Circular on Request
Also note that Young's price of thirty-five dollars for all rod models is the same pricing as listed in Dickerson's first pamphlet.
Young's statement may not prove that he had received actual copies of Dickerson's pamphlet at his shop when the 1935 PHY catalog was printed, but Young certainly anticipated being able to distribute pamphlets to his customers in early 1935.
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#5Ver cool: thanks for posting.
Note that the last catalog suggests going up one weight when using nylon lines instead of silk.
I seem to recall that Orvis included similar advice in transitional era catalogs.
Don't mean to hijack the thread, but find it interesting to see what actual rod makers recommended compared to modern theories that either there's no meaningful correlation or that it's best to go down a size (or is the latter just for Orvis rods?)
Note that the last catalog suggests going up one weight when using nylon lines instead of silk.
I seem to recall that Orvis included similar advice in transitional era catalogs.
Don't mean to hijack the thread, but find it interesting to see what actual rod makers recommended compared to modern theories that either there's no meaningful correlation or that it's best to go down a size (or is the latter just for Orvis rods?)
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#6Thanks for posting this, Mainiac!
One small detail struck me, and I'd like to ask your opinion on it...
In the 1947 brochure, under 2-pc rods, he lists an "8614," and no "8615." I've never ever seen a taper for an 8614, or even heard of one. Have you? Could it have been a typo? Or did he maybe start early with an 8614, then change the taper at some point, and start making 8615s? Would appreciate your thoughts. Thx, Lee
One small detail struck me, and I'd like to ask your opinion on it...
In the 1947 brochure, under 2-pc rods, he lists an "8614," and no "8615." I've never ever seen a taper for an 8614, or even heard of one. Have you? Could it have been a typo? Or did he maybe start early with an 8614, then change the taper at some point, and start making 8615s? Would appreciate your thoughts. Thx, Lee
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#7Thanks for posting the photo's. It's nice to have a look at these seeing as I will likely never have the opportunity to hold one let alone own one. Just one question. Has anyone seen a Dickerson Spinning or Casting rod? Can't say that I have, and a quick internet search didn't return any pictures. Curious as I would like to see what they looked like.
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#8No mention of the 7613, or am I missing something. The 7613 was one of his best tapers.
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#9Great stuff. Thanks, Marc!
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#11Hi Guys, Ahhhh, the forum of old. Thanks for posting these interesting pamphlets.
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#16Awesome information Manic!
Thank you for sharing it with us!!!
Thank you for sharing it with us!!!
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#18Thanks so much for the reply! Another rare Dickerson taper to pursue. :-) (I have to say that in my limited experience, his rare tapers were usually rare for a good reason. :-) )
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#19Many thanks for answering our queries Marc. I really feel like this precious thread signals a return of the Forum of olde... I hope to keep the sharing going...
A few more queries that have been stumped me over the years about Dickersons:
1) I agree that Lyle was actually more of a custom maker and model numbers don’t really co-relate to line weight and sometimes even hardware & action. My theory is that he, like Pinky & Garrison, built rods to achieve a certain ‘feel’ and used whatever he had to achieve it whether a larger ferrule ( perhaps due to different cane strength) or longer sections. As such, is it true from records that every so often, rod sections are of unequal length, model numbers are marked wrongly, some are hollowbuilt etc? And how much of it was custom and others simply ‘mistakes’?
2) Lyle’s script has evolved over the years. Do you have a record of how it changed?
3) Did he record how his tapers evolve and did he have a favourite rod model/ action that he used himself?
Many thanks
Arthur
A few more queries that have been stumped me over the years about Dickersons:
1) I agree that Lyle was actually more of a custom maker and model numbers don’t really co-relate to line weight and sometimes even hardware & action. My theory is that he, like Pinky & Garrison, built rods to achieve a certain ‘feel’ and used whatever he had to achieve it whether a larger ferrule ( perhaps due to different cane strength) or longer sections. As such, is it true from records that every so often, rod sections are of unequal length, model numbers are marked wrongly, some are hollowbuilt etc? And how much of it was custom and others simply ‘mistakes’?
2) Lyle’s script has evolved over the years. Do you have a record of how it changed?
3) Did he record how his tapers evolve and did he have a favourite rod model/ action that he used himself?
Many thanks
Arthur