Reccommendation for a 3 piece 7.5 - 8 ft rod

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Reccommendation for a 3 piece 7.5 - 8 ft rod

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Hello!

I am looking for a three piece rod in a length between 7,5 and 8 ft for a 5/6 line.

Three piece for travel purposes (once it's possible again).

I almost only fish dry flies, so what model would you reccommend?

I would prefer a rod by a "classic" maker, not a clone.

My budget is about 2.000 USD.

Thanks!
Thomas

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Hi Thomas, when you say a “ classic “ maker, do you mean a builder who offers their own proprietary tapers, or a maker or workshop that comes from a classical period of building, ie the 1950’s or 1960’s? Are you looking for a used rod or to order one from a current builder, or either? Some builders do have fairly long wait lists which I guess you know, which is one reason I ask also. I’m not sure when you were hoping to have the rod, ie this year?

Also, do you have a preference in rod action? Some of the European bamboo rods I have owned had fairly fast tapers. Your preference in rod action will influence the recommendations also.

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Hello, with "classic" I mean (older) rods by makers such as Winston, Orvis, Thomas & Thomas, Payne, Leonard etc.

So rods that usually have been used. My favourite dry fly rod has a slower action - it's a Thomas & Thomas Special Trouter.
(Here would be a lighter 3-piece version, but it's too expensive for what it is, in my opinion: http://www.ricksrods.com/product_view.asp?pID=2291)

I also fish with Brunner rods which are very fast (Wildwasser series) but I prefer slower ones.

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Thomas

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For a more friendly price tag you should add Heddons, Grangers, Phillipsons and Hardys to the list. These are in the $400-1000 range

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I second the Orvis 3/2 8’ . Looked for one for about 5 years and paid about $500 us. You can then send me the balance of $1,500! Just kidding! For the price range you are interested in... would think you could find a Leonard

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Suggest a Granger 8040 as a very user friendly taper. I thoroughly enjoy mine with a standard DT4 or an SA GPX DT4 (about a "4.5)".
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A budget of $2000 buys a lot of rod. The H. L. Leonard 50DF comes to mind. Rods don't come more "classic" than that.

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Greg Reynolds wrote:
01/18/21 09:59
A budget of $2000 buys a lot of rod. The H. L. Leonard 50DF comes to mind. Rods don't come more "classic" than that.
Greg is right, with that budget, you may as well go for a Leonard, F.E. Thomas, or Payne.

Leonard 50 DF (8') or 49 DF (7 1/2') will come in under budget. An F.E. Thomas Special in either length will also. You might get lucky and find a Payne in your preferred lengths, if you are not looking for "collector grade" rods.

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Thanks for all the replies, my #1 choice would be a Leonard 50DF.
But I will also look for F.E. Thomas, Payne, Granger and Phillipson.

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Your budget can accommodate a number of paths to achieve success. And I do note you are seeking a 5/6 WT rod. In no particular order;

1) Payne 202, @3/2, 8'0" depending on the rod can be a strong 5WT, a 5/6 or 6WT. Will be at your upper price limit.

2) Heddon Model #17, 20, 35, 50, @8'0", 3/2, 2F should fit in a similar range as noted above & as noted be easier on your pocket book.

3) Granger 8040, 8'0", 3/2, with the above range, above the price of a Heddon, maybe.

4) Not classic, but worth a mention, George Mauer made a "Rocky Mountain Special" in a 7'9", 3/2 configuration for 5/6WT. A nice rod out west.

There are others, the above I am familiar with.

If you have the time, spend the time in your search and cast the rods. You will find a variance within a model line in the ability to handle the two lines noted.

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$2k budget?
RD Taylor.

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Blackburn! His 8' 3/2 5wt. rocks.

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corlay wrote:
01/19/21 10:27
$2k budget?
RD Taylor.
+1 on an RD Taylor. I picked up a 35 this summer and couldn't be more pleased.
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Thanks, excellent input, just read RD Taylor's credentials, sounds great!

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Not sure if Bob Taylor is ready to build rods again as his workshop burnt down last year?

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The Hardy CC de France is a good, quick dry fly rod. Most of them are two piece rods, but they made a 3/2 version too. In my opinion they are worth buying just because of the looks (the pree war versions with graduated intermediates and signature wraps).

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I own a Hardy CC de France 2 piece 8 ft rod - definitely nice.
But I already have lots of Hardys but hardly any American made rods.
That's why a Payne, Granger or Leonard would be my first choice.

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See how many choices you have? We're probably getting you more confused than informed. The Granger 8040 Victory or Special in great condition is among the ultimate "all 'rounders." The Jenkins 71/2 or 8 ft. rods are stellar in build and performance. Loads more, but those are my suggestions.

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My choices would be a good Leonard M-50 DF or (less expensive) a Granger 8040. I have fished both for many years and they are great. Either could sell for equal or more than you paid in the event that you move on to something else.. These are really great rods, IMO.
Both these rods are 'classic' so be sure to buy from a reputable dealer or do your own research, there are some poor restorations out there.

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Hello Thomast; I was reading your post and wanted to say, first of all, be careful of what you buy from whom. There are thousands of knock-offs on the market.
I can certainly recommend that you look into West Slopes' website, he is very discriminating in what he offers.
Also Len Codelas in Florida, a very nice person to do business with.
I do realize that a vintage 3/2 magnificent reed from a master builder is very appealing and of course, it's very collectible. But if the rod had not been properly serviced in recent years you may be in for disappointments once on the water. I like your budget $ figure but once again, be careful of what you buy.
If I were buying a 5/6 weight rod in 3/2 configuration I would find an 8.0 ft. rod. Most prefer a 4 wt or a 4/5 weight in 7.6 ft. configuration.
But now all these rods kind of depends on what you fishing for and where.
Mike

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