Dickerson 7612 ferrules

[jim royston]

I believe that Rush River sells a 13/12 stepdown. I recall using it for this taper.

[3creeks]

I believe that Rush River sells a 13/12 stepdown. I recall using it for this taper.

Jim, when did you last buy those? I've heard that before but all I've ever seen on their website is standard ferrules and I just went there and looked and it's the same. They're my go-to for standard ferrules.

[3creeks]

I use Super Z ferrules on Dickerson tapers. I just adjust the taper across the ferrule station. Works just fine for me.

Would you fit this with a 12 or 13? I wonder what subtle differences, if any, would be noticeable if the male station is built up to accommodate the Super Z? Might be an interesting comparison.

[jim royston]

It's been a long time. Maybe when Dave bought the company, he discontinued them. They were only available in that one size.

[trland]

It's been a long time. Maybe when Dave bought the company, he discontinued them. They were only available in that one size.

They show up in the size pop-up menu.

[jim royston]

Yup, they are in his available sizes

[Flyman615]

I have an original 7612 from 1948. It is a 4 wt. but in no way is it fast. It isn’t a 7613 “lite”.

I also once owned a 7612 from 1948. I always felt it was a 4 wt. rod, but had one heck of a time finding the 'right' line. Finally gave up and sold it.

Scott Z.

[3creeks]

Thanks guys! Good information.

[LeeO]

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I would build the 7612 to a 12/64 ferrule. I am sure there would be a difference in action. I am not into exact reproductions and the Dickerson tapers with Super Z ferrules are fantastic casting rods, so it works for me

Edit - quotes the wrong person in my reply

[avyoung]

I originated the design 20 years ago when I was making a lot of Dickerson taper rods. I make them in all sizes.
The idea is I make the butt a Swiss type ferrule in a given size, 13/64 for eg and the tip is a Swiss style male in say 12/64.
The male just fits the female in exactly the same way as if you were just using Swiss style ferrules and as far as fitting to the rod is concerned they're done in exactly the same manner as fitting Swiss style ferrules.

My ferrules are made using Nickle Aluminium Bronze. At least 10% stronger and about 15% lighter than NS too.

http://www.avyoung.com/ferrules.htm

tony

[3creeks]

I originated the design 20 years ago when I was making a lot of Dickerson taper rods. I make them in all sizes.
The idea is I make the butt a Swiss type ferrule in a given size, 13/64 for eg and the tip is a Swiss style male in say 12/64.
The male just fits the female in exactly the same way as if you were just using Swiss style ferrules and as far as fitting to the rod is concerned they're done in exactly the same manner as fitting Swiss style ferrules.

My ferrules are made using Nickle Aluminium Bronze. At least 10% stronger and about 15% lighter than NS too.

http://www.avyoung.com/ferrules.htm

tony

And that's a huge advantage, Tony. They're so much more straight forward to fit and you can stay true to any drop in the tip dimension. I still have two set of your ferrules in size 14/13 that I'm going to build at least one 7613 with. I'm only into reproductions to the extent that I'm trying to see what the fuss is about with classic tapers- to the extent that these published numbers are anywhere close to those classic tapers, that is.

[BGreer]

I believe that Rush River sells a 13/12 stepdown. I recall using it for this taper.

Jim, when did you last buy those? I've heard that before but all I've ever seen on their website is standard ferrules and I just went there and looked and it's the same. They're my go-to for standard ferrules.

If you go to the Rush River Rods website and look under nickel silver ferrules.....then look under "Super Z 3 Piece Set.
Under the drop down menu for ferrule sizes there is the 12-13/64th ferrule set.

Brian

[3creeks]

I believe that Rush River sells a 13/12 stepdown. I recall using it for this taper.

Jim, when did you last buy those? I've heard that before but all I've ever seen on their website is standard ferrules and I just went there and looked and it's the same. They're my go-to for standard ferrules.

If you go to the Rush River Rods website and look under nickel silver ferrules.....then look under "Super Z 3 Piece Set.
Under the drop down menu for ferrule sizes there is the 12-13/64th ferrule set.

Brian

Thanks, Brian. I actually went to their site last night and saw that.

[David4Him]

+1 for using Tony Young step downs. I built out a 7612 blank a few years ago that Gary Williams in TN built for me, and Tony's step downs were the perfect match. My 7612 is a fast 4 wt and a favorite on the stream. David

[avyoung]

+1 for using Tony Young step downs. I built out a 7612 blank a few years ago that Gary Williams in TN built for me, and Tony's step downs were the perfect match. My 7612 is a fast 4 wt and a favorite on the stream. David

Thanks David, I'm glad they worked out so well for you.

tony