Flies from the 50's, 60's & 70's
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Flies from the 50's, 60's & 70's
#1Here is a collection of the flies included in the tackle I received from my grandfather Martin K Bovey. For most of these patterns I have them in a number of sizes. Thank you all again for sharing your collective knowledge with me. I've number the photos and any help with identifying the patterns/names of the flies would be great. I'm also splitting the photos into a couple posts but these are in no particular order as I know nothing about them.
I've added names as suggested by you all. Will continue to edit and change if others chime in.
I'm having great fun learning from you all!
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2. Atherton Dry Fly #5
3. Grizzly Wing or Quill Gordon
4. Carmichael's Indispensable
5. Bivisible
6.
7. Royal Wulff
8.
I've added names as suggested by you all. Will continue to edit and change if others chime in.
I'm having great fun learning from you all!
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2. Atherton Dry Fly #5
3. Grizzly Wing or Quill Gordon
4. Carmichael's Indispensable
5. Bivisible
6.
7. Royal Wulff
8.
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Re: Flies from the 50's, 60's & 70's
#3Last Batch
17. Adams Irresistible / Rat Faced McDouglal
18. Yellow Sally
19. Sulphur
20. Humpy (Yellow)
21. Pat's Hopper (Pat Barnes)
22.
23.
24. Royal Coachman wet
25. Coachman wet
26. Black Gnat
27.
28. Muddler Minnow
29. Humpy
30. Humpy
31. Waterborn Flies, Pat Barnes Fly Shop, West Yellowstone, WY
Box & label
17. Adams Irresistible / Rat Faced McDouglal
18. Yellow Sally
19. Sulphur
20. Humpy (Yellow)
21. Pat's Hopper (Pat Barnes)
22.
23.
24. Royal Coachman wet
25. Coachman wet
26. Black Gnat
27.
28. Muddler Minnow
29. Humpy
30. Humpy
31. Waterborn Flies, Pat Barnes Fly Shop, West Yellowstone, WY
Box & label
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#4I can't make out the color of the dubbing of most of the Catskill flies well enough to id, but others that I'm mostly sure of are:
3) Mosquito
7) Royal Wulff
9) Renagade (with a tail rather than the usual tag)
13) March Browns(?)
15) Gray Wulff
16) Humpy (red)
17)Adams Irresistible / Rat Faced McDougal (depending on what part of the country you're from)
20) Humpy (yellow)
24) Royal Coachman wet
25) Rio Grande King
26) Black Gnat dry
29) Humpy
30) Humpy (green)
Note: the Humpy also goes by the name Goofus Bug
3) Mosquito
7) Royal Wulff
9) Renagade (with a tail rather than the usual tag)
13) March Browns(?)
15) Gray Wulff
16) Humpy (red)
17)Adams Irresistible / Rat Faced McDougal (depending on what part of the country you're from)
20) Humpy (yellow)
24) Royal Coachman wet
25) Rio Grande King
26) Black Gnat dry
29) Humpy
30) Humpy (green)
Note: the Humpy also goes by the name Goofus Bug
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#5Okay, first Redietz is a lot more knowledgeable than me and many of them just look like generic well tied flies. Not every fly has a distinct history or name to it. I'm going to go over my list that I think I might recognize and some differ from above. If they're the same in my mind I'll note. Those that are just flies to me I'll pass on.
3. Quill Gordon - Mosquito is tied with stripped Grizzly feather.
5. Bivisible - Brown hackle in back and white in front but not separated by body
7. Same
9. Same - Differs from Bivisible in a body between brown and white hackle
15. Fat Adams but probably Gray Wulff like above
17. Rat Faced McDougal
18. Yellow Sally
19. Sulphur
20. Same
24. Same
25. Coachman wet
26. Black Gnat works
28. Muddler Minnow - hundreds of variants on Gapen's original design
29 + 30. Humpys work for me
3. Quill Gordon - Mosquito is tied with stripped Grizzly feather.
5. Bivisible - Brown hackle in back and white in front but not separated by body
7. Same
9. Same - Differs from Bivisible in a body between brown and white hackle
15. Fat Adams but probably Gray Wulff like above
17. Rat Faced McDougal
18. Yellow Sally
19. Sulphur
20. Same
24. Same
25. Coachman wet
26. Black Gnat works
28. Muddler Minnow - hundreds of variants on Gapen's original design
29 + 30. Humpys work for me
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#63) Grizzly wing, no tail, quill body = mosquito. Yes, you can use stripped grizzly for the body (I usually do) but you older dressings can also call for black and white moose mane, or stripped herl.
5) Yeah, I kind of thought that too, but wasn't sure because the rear hackle didn't seem to go back far enough.
25) Possibly, but the Coachman has a gold tag and no tail. RGK always has a tail and a chenille body. (Hard to tell what the body is on that one.)
28) Either that or a hopper of some sort. I couldn't decide, so left it blank.
Re: Flies from the 50's, 60's & 70's
#72. Atherton dry fly #5
4. Carmichael’s Indispensable
12. Silver Badger Spider
18. Grizzly Wulff
21. Pat’s Hopper (Pat Barnes)
4. Carmichael’s Indispensable
12. Silver Badger Spider
18. Grizzly Wulff
21. Pat’s Hopper (Pat Barnes)
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#8This is great! I really appreciate all the help in identifying these. As mentioned in the OP, these were all my grandfather's so I have no doubt all were hand tied and likely from highly regarded fly shops from both the Northeast and Rocky Mountain region.
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Re: Flies from the 50's, 60's & 70's
#9This would be a great future reference if the OP put the names next to the number so that I (and future visitors) don't have to go-to scroll to see what they are. Hint hint.
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#10Redietx! According to Perrault's Dictionary of Fishing Flies, that fly you called a Renegade with a tai,l and no tag is actually called a Katterman! I've tied and fished with'em a lot as a searcher fly. They just look like something to eat to a trout!
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#11Cool! Good to know. (I use the Renegade a lot for the same reason.)
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#12These all make a lot of sense. Especially:
2. Atherton Dry #5 - This not only fits based on images, knowing what I know (and I continue to learn) about my grandfather, he and John Atherton were the same age would likely have crossed paths as outdoorsman.
4. Carmichael's Indispensable - I have a Phillipson "Bob Carmichael" cane rod that was my grandfather's and know he made trips to Montana and Wyoming to fish.
12. Silver Badger Spider - My grandfather produced a short film, Hewitt on the Neversink which features Ed Hewitt fishing a similar Spider.
21. Given the Pat Barnes, Waterborn Flies box I assumed several of these were from his shop.
I will work on updating the OP and add the names to the pictures. Really appreciate the help.