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I used to dread tying with CDC but this year I have made my peace with it. I used a lot of it this year and when going over my logs, the majority of fish taken on dries have been on CDC patterns.


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Beautiful flies. I feel like I am still finding my way thing with CDC but have a good deal of success fishing them.

Did you use puffs, fibers from the larger feathers cuts off the stem, or something else?


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PYochim wrote:
09/19/21 09:45
... the majority of fish taken on dries have been on CDC patterns.
Of course ;-)

CDC&Elk and Petitjean 'Caddis' in my case

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Tied up a few CDC F-Flies flies using 2 CDC feathers on a #16 wire hook. Fished them on a brown Trout stream yesterday. Seem to drift nicely but hard to see on a sun dappled stream. Mine also seemed to sink in a bit of broken water and needed a lot of false casts and sometimes desiccate to get floating again. Do I need to use 4 or more CDC feathers to get a nice float?

Will tie up some emerges like the above, how many feathers are you using.

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There are three feathers on each fly. I haven't found an application for puffs yet.

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Nice tie Paul. Fish catchers for sure! :)

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Pat, thanks.

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i very seldom tie with cdc

its one and done

once it gets slimed its rendered sorta useless

at least for me

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Paul,
That is essentially a Harrop Last Chance Cripple tied on a klinkhammer hook, and I love it! The LCC is one of my favorite slick water mayfly patterns, I tie em from #20 BWO up to #10 March Brown/Green Drake. I get the feeling that Renee Harrop knows a thing or two about slick water fly patterns. A shuck is a nice addition and would very much recommend a tiny hank of wood duck or moose body hair, or even amber zelon. The puffs from a duck are a bit small for anything but a wee little mayfly, but the Canada Goose puffs are IDEAL for the LCC.
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A few years back, when I was still able to fish the Henry's Fork 4=5 days a week, I would guess that 70% of the fish I caught were taken on a size 16 CDC & Elk . . . regardless of what was hatching or on the water at the time. The key IMO is in the motion the CDC imparts to the fly.

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Eric, the CDC & Elk is next.

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I tie a majority of my most effective flies with CDC and have for many years. I started with the material thirty years ago and then got some different ideas from some of the European tiers at the first or second Fly Tier's Symposium in Western, PA. I find more of our very pressured wild trout keying upon moving naturals during an emergence, whether heavy or sparse, and CDC offers great movement within the fly itself. I think it is quite easy to tie with, and I use puffs a lot.
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Norm Frechette wrote:
09/20/21 10:21
i very seldom tie with cdc

its one and done

once it gets slimed its rendered sorta useless

at least for me

ymmv
This was my opinion of CDC for a long time. CDC flies were reserved for picky trout that refused a more conventional pattern. I've come around, at least partially and will usually try a CDC and Elk as a searching pattern when no fish are rising, or when they're rising to something unidentifiable. It works often enough.

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Breaking News! I tied up a few using CDC puffs. They are a little harder to work with but they seemed to float pretty well.

I also tied a CDC & Elk.

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PYochim wrote:
09/19/21 11:31
There are three feathers on each fly. I haven't found an application for puffs yet.

The only use for the puffs that I have found is on emergers that I have no expectations of "dry fly" floating. I fish them most often as trailers to a higher floating dry fly.

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Here's an LCC with a shuck, a 20 I think, works great. As to floatability I've found that Loon Lochsa works great on CDC.
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They work well as a wing on ant patterns.

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I have one trout that has been my nemesis and have a pattern shared with me by Caneghost that I think may be his undoing. So... I went online and ordered the materials needed. This was early last week. CDC from a shop in Missouri went to Nashville then to Fresno, Ca! I live in Central NY! CDC and hooks and the right color biots from Massachusetts went to New Hampshire and left a week ago from the distribution center in Nashua. "In transit" ???

It will be a learning curve for me tying with CDC but my hope is that all of the positive feedback here will prove fruitful for me IF I ever get the chance to have a go at it! I did catch a few on a BWO standard dry fly but the "picky" fish ignored it.

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I take it there is no fly shop close enough to you to be convenient. Sounds like the kind of ring around the country shipping routes I saw last year in the heat of the crazy. I hope the fly does the deed when you finally get to tie it. While you are at it, tie a couple of cdc comparaduns too. Use the cdc puffs or bunches of fibers for the wing instead of deer hair.
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I have both "oiler puffs" and feathers coming to experiment with. There is a shop in Syracuse, and I've frequented it over the years, and admittedly have gotten adverse to driving over there and have taken the route of laziness and convenience online - poor excuse, I know!

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