Hairwing Fly Dressings
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Hairwing Fly Dressings
#1Quite a few wet fly dressings are tied with a wing OVER the “wound” hackle, although a few call for a small “beard” with a wing. But many hairwing salmon flies call for a “beard” and the hairwing tied on top of the hook (no wound hackle(.
Does anyone tie their hairwinged flies using several turns of wound hackle and then place the wing on top of the wound hackle?
Does anyone tie their hairwinged flies using several turns of wound hackle and then place the wing on top of the wound hackle?
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#2Many tyers tie the "beard" as a wound hackle, then pull it down and tie it in as a throat, then tie the hairwing in over top. I don't do it that way...too much like work. Don't see many (any?) patterns where the wing is tied in on top of the wound hackle. would kind of defeat the purpose, I think.
Gary
Gary
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#3Many, if not most hairwing steelhead flies are tied with the wing tied on after a wound hackle, but not on top of the hackle. The hackle is doubled or folded so that when it's wound on it's automatically slanted back in a cone-shaped collar - no need to wind over it to make it slant back. Then the wing is tied on immediately in front of that collar. If the wing is tied on top of the hackle, the head will be fat and bulbous, but ifthe wing is tied right in front of the hackle, the head will be slim and neat.
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#4I prefer using the Beard Method. more control and keeps the tie in area smooth for topping and wing materials.
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#6some recipes call for the wing after the collar (skykomish sunrise)
and some recipes call for the wing before the collar (forrest powell)
while some call for a beard/throat (ferry canyon)
i tend to tie them using the sequence in the established recipe
example
Skykomish Sunrise
Hook - Allen SS001
Thread - Red
Tag - Flat silver tinsel
Tail - Red and yellow hackle fibers, mixed
Ribbing - Oval silver tinsel
Body - Red chenille. Angora goat dubbing may be substituted
Hackle - One red hackle and one yellow hackle, wound together
Wing - White calftail
Forrest Powell
Hook - Gamakatsu T10-6H
Thread - Orange or red
Tail - Red hackle fibers
Body - Hot orange chenille
Wing - White bucktail
Hackle - Red
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Re: Hairwing Fly Dressings
#7Bob,
I tie hairwing steelhead wet flies, Pass Lake and hairwing Royal Coachman wet flies with the wing in front of the hackle beard.
John
I tie hairwing steelhead wet flies, Pass Lake and hairwing Royal Coachman wet flies with the wing in front of the hackle beard.
John
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#9There are no absolutes in fly tying. Try a few different ways and see what works for you.
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#10I think it's simply a matter of choice. A full hackle over the wing pushes water is highly visible and slows sink rate. Lot to discuss here.
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Re: Hairwing Fly Dressings
#12The original classic Pass Lake pattern always has the hairwing tied in last, after the hackle.