The wildest Partridge hooks you will ever see.. eye/eye
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The wildest Partridge hooks you will ever see.. eye/eye
#1These hooks were given to me by an old timer... There is a line tie at the hook point position... ?!?!
Any thoughts here.. ? Top and bottom look like a limerick bend but with a straight eye and the middle a long shank hooper dry fly hook ?
Was this a guide's hook ? a joke hook ? a finesse hook.. as in try to land it ?!?!
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#2Have seen these. What I was told is they were designed for no kill areas and children for just catch and see the fish kind of things. Saw a box of them years ago but never bought any. While I fish barbless I still enjoy a touch of fish once in a while.
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#3Lucky that these hooks don't have beads on them or else I know a couple guys who would probably pilfer them from you!
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#4Memory lane stuff
These hooks are called TAG (Touch And Go) hooks, concept by John Betts and turned into actual hooks under Alan Bramley, at that time the owner of Partridge of Redditch.
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These hooks are called TAG (Touch And Go) hooks, concept by John Betts and turned into actual hooks under Alan Bramley, at that time the owner of Partridge of Redditch.
Cheers,
Hans W
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#5a hook for lawn casting, (not a bad idea)?
a cat fish fly hook, when you're fishing for your cat?
a hook for easy fish, the fish can release themselves?
a cat fish fly hook, when you're fishing for your cat?
a hook for easy fish, the fish can release themselves?
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#6Indeed John Betts design, when pressured by his psychology professor wife when asked; "How many fish have to die before you become famous?"
Well there is some truth to this after fishing for many years now.
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Well there is some truth to this after fishing for many years now.
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#7joaniebo ... I believe that I have some with beads... Bob Church gold heads I think.
Does that name ring a bell ?
I must locate them amongst this mess and tie something on them... where did I put those hooks with no hook ?
Does that name ring a bell ?
I must locate them amongst this mess and tie something on them... where did I put those hooks with no hook ?
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#8Not related to the hooks but George Harvey in his later years cut the barb off his hooks - his goal was to have the take - he didn't need to catch more fish.
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#9No one else would dare do such a thing.
May he rest in peace. What a legendary man.
May he rest in peace. What a legendary man.
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#10He was a legend, he taught the first college-level class on fly fishing in 1934 at Penn State.
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#11They would make tying on a second fly on a 2 fly rig easy.
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#12One of Alan Bramley's tongue in cheek projects - in cahoots with John Betts at the time I believe - They were called TAG hooks - for Touch And Go. Intended to get a fish to rise, take the fly (the essence of fly fishing according to John Betts: fooling the fish into taking a imitation for real food), then make sure you have a LDR...Brian K. Shaffer wrote: ↑12/04/13 06:04
These hooks were given to me by an old timer... There is a line tie at the hook point position... ?!?!
Any thoughts here.. ? Top and bottom look like a limerick bend but with a straight eye and the middle a long shank hooper dry fly hook ?
Was this a guide's hook ? a joke hook ? a finesse hook.. as in try to land it ?!?!
Oops - old thread, and friend Weilenmann already gave the history...
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#13Many thanks for your version of the history though - I personally love to hear the story every time.
Singapore hooks... if you have tied on any - do you think the quality is any different ?
but these are neat.. they have Inline eyes... imagine the fly underwater riding on that hook ~
Found the Church hooks... no beads on these...
All the really good info on the back :
Singapore hooks... if you have tied on any - do you think the quality is any different ?
but these are neat.. they have Inline eyes... imagine the fly underwater riding on that hook ~
Found the Church hooks... no beads on these...
All the really good info on the back :
" There's no such thing as a fly fisherman wholly satisfied with his casting performance. " ~ Jim Green (1971)
" Just once I wish a trout would wink at me. " ~ Brian Shaffer
Use the SEARCH for justification and reasoning.
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#14henkverhaar wrote: ↑12/02/21 03:05One of Alan Bramley's tongue in cheek projects - in cahoots with John Betts at the time I believe - They were called TAG hooks - for Touch And Go. Intended to get a fish to rise, take the fly (the essence of fly fishing according to John Betts: fooling the fish into taking a imitation for real food), then make sure you have a LDR...Brian K. Shaffer wrote: ↑12/04/13 06:04
These hooks were given to me by an old timer... There is a line tie at the hook point position... ?!?!
Any thoughts here.. ? Top and bottom look like a limerick bend but with a straight eye and the middle a long shank hooper dry fly hook ?
Was this a guide's hook ? a joke hook ? a finesse hook.. as in try to land it ?!?!
Oops - old thread, and friend Weilenmann already gave the history...
Yep, mid 1990's I believe
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#15Maybe they were used to make hat pins and such, like the gold colored ones that used to be around
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#16A few steelhead fanatics used to cut the points off their hooks and fish just for the grab or the surface take. You would have to be really hardcore to do that now with the dwindling runs in the West.
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#17Hi Guys, A shift away from 'torture and release.'
We have a kiddy pond here in Walden, so no fishing unless a kid or Veteran. I used to give casting lesson there with a piece of yarn tied on. They had a nice bunch of Rainbows at the time that would be actively rising all over the pond. It was great, lots of rises to cast to and a nice little tussle and then gone. pretty cool............
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We have a kiddy pond here in Walden, so no fishing unless a kid or Veteran. I used to give casting lesson there with a piece of yarn tied on. They had a nice bunch of Rainbows at the time that would be actively rising all over the pond. It was great, lots of rises to cast to and a nice little tussle and then gone. pretty cool............
Jay Edwards
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#18I think the inline hooks are/were to clamp them in the vice by the eye and have them oriented correctly to tie reverse/upside down flies - like the WaterWisp...
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#19I always thought this pattern used a variation of the Swedish Dry Fly hook :
Never saw these in my local shops.
1996 Fly Rod & Reel
Never saw these in my local shops.
1996 Fly Rod & Reel
" There's no such thing as a fly fisherman wholly satisfied with his casting performance. " ~ Jim Green (1971)
" Just once I wish a trout would wink at me. " ~ Brian Shaffer
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#20UPSIDE DOWN AND BACKWARDS FLIES HAVE BEEN AROUND A LLLLOOOONNNNNGGG TIME.