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PostPosted: 05/23/20 12:22 • # 21 
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Bill Moschler wrote:
I never seem to have the choice of sinking or floating tippet. I am working hard just to keep the fly floating. Beyond that, if the fly is drifting well, I do not pay much attention. I use Rio leaders and a piece of Rio tippet. Not flurocarbon for drys.

I am not a dry or die, but dry is now I fish most of the time. Anything else is too hard.


Use a Gink type solution to grease your tippet.


An interesting thing about Gink and floatants on your leader. They work good at first. But then after a while they will attract the micro-dirt and scum in the water and will cause your leader to break through the surface film quicker. So keep on them, wiping them clean, and re-applying.
Try a squeaky clean brand new mono leader and tippet and watch how well they float without any floatant on them (providing you've straightened all the coils out).

Same thing happens to your floating flyline tip. It starts to sink, so you gink it up, and it works again for a bit, but then sinks after awhile. Try scouring it clean and it will float again (unless it's a cracked line, or has water in the hollow core, or it's just a crappy floater).

If you're bored during quarantini time at night, set up a glass of water next to your cocktail and mess around with some little chunks of mono and flouro, and greased up, etc. Mono really hangs in the surface film really well. Then poke at the pieces and see what it takes to sink them.
It's quite revealing.

Don't mix up your drinks. I need to put on my mask and go buy some more gin.

A tenkara rod, like a pet monkey, seems like a good idea at first.


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PostPosted: 05/23/20 12:24 • # 22 
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Brooks wrote:
DaveNJ wrote:
Bill Moschler wrote:
I never seem to have the choice of sinking or floating tippet. I am working hard just to keep the fly floating. Beyond that, if the fly is drifting well, I do not pay much attention. I use Rio leaders and a piece of Rio tippet. Not flurocarbon for drys.

I am not a dry or die, but dry is now I fish most of the time. Anything else is too hard.


Use a Gink type solution to grease your tippet.


An interesting thing about Gink and floatants on your leader. They work good at first. But then after a while they will attract the micro-dirt and scum in the water and will cause your leader to break through the surface film quicker. So keep on them, wiping them clean, and re-applying.
Try a squeaky clean brand new mono leader and tippet and watch how well they float without any tippet (providing you've straightened all the coils out).

Same thing happens to your floating flyline tip. It starts to sink, so you gink it up, and it works again for a bit, but then sinks after awhile. Try scouring it clean and it will float again (unless it's a cracked line, or has water in the hollow core, or it's just a crappy floater).

If you're bored during quarantini time at night, set up a glass of water next to your cocktail and mess around with some little chunks of mono and flouro, and greased up, etc. Mono really hangs in the surface film really well. Then poke at the pieces and see what it takes to sink them.
It's quite revealing.

Don't mix up your drinks. I need to put on my mask and go buy some more gin.


This makes sense, thank you! I've noticed some of this when using a certain setup for an extended period of time.


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PostPosted: 05/24/20 11:07 • # 23 
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I dont recall when I started using flouro for tippets, actually. But once I started I never stopped. You do know the leading worldwide sales on flouro tippets is out of two shops in Last Chance? (joke).
I use a 15 foot basic mono leader to 3 X /4X and will add another 4-5 feet plus of 5x and X flouro . I' m fishing larger pieces of water on highly highly educated and technical fish on most days. Much of it is crystal clear. Long long downstream floats to picky fish. More of it back east these days than out west.

I will edit to say on the larger rivers Im using a 10 ft (plastic ;.) ) rod. Gulp


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PostPosted: 05/24/20 11:17 • # 24 
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Wow Bee,turning over a 20ft leader would be a tough proposition for me,12-14 max for me.


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PostPosted: 05/24/20 11:19 • # 25 
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Bee wrote:
I dont recall when I started using flouro for tippets, actually. But once I started I never stopped. You do know the leading worldwide sales on flouro tippets is out of two shops in Last Chance? (joke). Like the Seagur but cannot seem to find the Grand Max anymore.

I use a 15 foot basic mono leader to 3 X /4X and will add another 4-5 feet plus of 5x and X flouro . I' m fishing larger pieces of water on highly highly educated and technical fish on most days. Much of it is crystal clear. Long long downstream floats to picky fish. More of it back east these days than out west.


I would tend to agree with you on all points. Leaders and tippets are kind of like flies. You get confidence in a certain one, you fish it more, and viole'!, you're catching more fish!
(Bee I was responding to your post before you edited out the 'funny' "pre 91" parts ;-)

A tenkara rod, like a pet monkey, seems like a good idea at first.


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