Matching Hatches For Eastern Trout

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billems
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Matching Hatches For Eastern Trout

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I downloaded to my Kindle Henry Ramsay's "Matching Major Eastern Hatches: New Patterns for Selective Trout." The hatches in Pennsylvania (where Ramsay resides) are similar to those we experience here in West Wisconsin and the Driftless. The book is a fine fly tying manual, with good accompanying text and photos. Ramsay ties his mayflys after the style of Vince Marinaro's thorax patterns. He modernizes them by using CDC for his winging materials. He utilizes microfibbets and superfine dubbing, as well. His spinners, nymphs and emergers look like winners to me. One aspect I am definitley going to try is to tie my trico spinners without tails. Ramsay believes--and he may be onto something--the long tails of the trike spinners can cause the fly to deflect out of the fish's mouth. The book is well written, with a lot of knowledge concerning hatches and fly patterns.

GerardH
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Re: Matching Hatches For Eastern Trout

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billems wrote:
07/28/22 20:58
ne aspect I am definitley going to try is to tie my trico spinners without tails. Ramsay believes--and he may be onto something--the long tails of the trike spinners can cause the fly to deflect out of the fish's mouth.
There is definitely a school of thought that some tiers believe the microfibbet tails are much stiffer than that of a natural's and allow the trout to push the fly away from its mouth when it's trying to engulf it. They endorse either shortening up the tail length or tie tailless....I've been doing the former but may have give the latter more consideration. I hate splitting tails anyway...

I'll have to look up that book, thanks for the recommendation.

driftless angler
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Re: Matching Hatches For Eastern Trout

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I'll have to check that book out.

As for tricos around here, I too hated splitting microfibbets and have gone to a short bunch (4-5) of grizzly hackle. Now I might try leaving that off! I have found around here, that the fish aren't counting tails or measuring tail length. Wing size they are very picky about. Got into a great trico hatch yesterday morning.

drifly
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Re: Matching Hatches For Eastern Trout

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Coq de Leon ties a much better, softer, more natural tail than micro fibbets. I found those fibbets to be way too stiff. I just can’t leave the tails off my may fly patterns. I’m not sure how the fish feel but for myself flies just don’t look right without them.

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