Grandfathers rods: PAYNE, vernley and two others I’m not sure

[Jenkathrens]

Hi everyone happy Thanksgiving! I have four of my grandfathers fly rods. Three are bamboo. I’m just wanting to get some more information on them at this point. There was one PAYNE rod posting back about 10 years ago that looked like my grandfathers. His has the original case, 9’, 3 piece, two tips and original fabric sleeve. I’ll post some photos of the PAYNE and can post the others laster

[JoeBolt]

Well this should aid the digestion all right!
Happy Thanksgiving.

[Woodlakejag]

Hard to tell much from that picture. I don’t think that’s an original Payne tube. Rod looks nice though.

If you post more pictures and the weight in ounces you’ll get more information.

[Jenkathrens]

[Jenkathrens]

Rod weighs 5.9 oz

[Short Tip]

Nice rod. Some closeups of a few guides, plus a measurement of each section length, would be very helpful. At the weight, it's a Model 208 or 209. The tube is not original to the rod.

[Jenkathrens]

Each section is 36 1/2 inches

[Short Tip]

That looks like a pretty nice original from what I see there. Built in the 1950s-60s most likely. I believe it's a Model 208.

[Jenkathrens]

Thank you for the information. I’m doing research as well and really appreciate your help. What would you estimate the value of this model to be without the original tube? I have a few other bamboo fly rods I’ll post here in the next few days. I think I’d like to sell them but haven’t decided just yet. Thanks for your help identifying the model number!

[Woodlakejag]

I would guess around $800. Others might have a more accurate estimate.

[fishbates]

The Payne looks original but would have to see her first hand to know for sure
Bag looks original tube is not
$1,000-1,200
If restored 900$$
If you weight the rod one tip I can tell you model number and better appraisal

Dave

[drifly]

“The Payne looks original but would have to see her first hand to know for sure
Bag looks original tube is not
$1,000-12,000”

I’m assuming you meant 1,200 in the post above

[Jenkathrens]

It weighs in on a shipping scale as 3/8 and on a food scale .4oz

[Jenkathrens]

I also have a few other rods. Not sure what they are

[headwaters]

I'm pretty sure he meant, if you would weigh the butt with the mid and one tip, he could tell you . . . .

[Jenkathrens]

It's 5.9oz

[headwaters]

I think it most likely would be a Model 209. The nominal cataloged weight for the Model 208 was 4-3/4 - 5 oz, whereas for the 209 it was 5-1/4 - 5-3/4 oz.

[Seabowisha Salmo T]

I think it most likely would be a Model 209. The nominal cataloged weight for the Model 208 was 4-3/4 - 5 oz, whereas for the 209 it was 5-1/4 - 5-3/4 oz.

yes, it appears "heavy" in the images.

regards, jim w

[Short Tip]

I think it most likely would be a Model 209. The nominal cataloged weight for the Model 208 was 4-3/4 - 5 oz, whereas for the 209 it was 5-1/4 - 5-3/4 oz.

Correct as always, my math was off. 5.9 oz., subtract .5 oz. for the uplocking reel seat. leaving a nominal rod weight of 5.4 oz.