Looking for Payne’s Canadian Canoe taper. There are numbers in Howells book but the description is… confusing. He says to deduct .006 for varnish except on the tip, then he says he’s made his .072 which is bigger than the measured dimension…
Anyway, if someone has a more accurate set of numbers for this rod it would be greatly appreciated!
Canadian canoe
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Re: Canadian canoe
#2There are several locations. David Ray's taper library (on Hexrod) https://www.hexrod.net/Tapers/drtapers/index.html , another one here: http://www.canerod.com/rodmakers/tapers ... yneCC.html, several on this list (you'll have to search for them) , one in the old www.rodbuildingforum.com (may have to go to Internet Archive to get that), some written about it here: https://www.bamboorodmaking.com/Tips-fi ... apers.html
And other taper books. I don't fiddle with this taper, so I haven't sussed it out. I hope this helps.
Sam Nielson
And other taper books. I don't fiddle with this taper, so I haven't sussed it out. I hope this helps.
Sam Nielson
Re: Canadian canoe
#3Here is a link to a taper a little different than Howell's: https://www.hexrod.net/Tapers/More_rodm ... s/173.html. It is probably the same as in the sources Sam N. posted. Happy sleuthing.
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Re: Canadian canoe
#4Thank you SamNielson and Fcs! I have come across these- there is quite a lot of discrepancy as far as varnish deduction, etc. The formatting of the numbers is also a bit janky... The ones in David Ray's library are definitely incorrect as they show several stations repeating themselves. The numbers on canerod.com are incorrect as they don't follow the stations as laid out, i.e. 5" would be around .090 not .085 (4" from tip).
At this point I think I am going to just use these numbers as inspiration to make my own taper, but if anyone who has a tried and true taper for this rod is feeling kind enough to share it would be greatly appreciated, even privately.
At this point I think I am going to just use these numbers as inspiration to make my own taper, but if anyone who has a tried and true taper for this rod is feeling kind enough to share it would be greatly appreciated, even privately.
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Re: Canadian canoe
#5Hi Pterrano,
I imagine you’ve started the rod by now, but I’ll share how I interpreted Howell’s tip dimension. In brief, I made the unvarnished tip .072 and then followed the rest of the book’s listed dimensions, subtracting .006 for varnish. Not certain, but I believe he was saying that an unvarnished tip of .065 would be too delicate for the line weight.
I hollowed the rod starting with ~.100 wall thickness in the butt, working my way progressively thinner to ~.055 in the tip section. No correction in dimensions for hollowing.
The rod casts a 6 and 7 weights equally well. I’ve used this rod for two seasons, and it’s just a superb taper for (surprise, surprise) a drift boat. It allows you to lift line off the water and reposition the fly with such ease and accuracy. Great roll caster as well.
Bill
I imagine you’ve started the rod by now, but I’ll share how I interpreted Howell’s tip dimension. In brief, I made the unvarnished tip .072 and then followed the rest of the book’s listed dimensions, subtracting .006 for varnish. Not certain, but I believe he was saying that an unvarnished tip of .065 would be too delicate for the line weight.
I hollowed the rod starting with ~.100 wall thickness in the butt, working my way progressively thinner to ~.055 in the tip section. No correction in dimensions for hollowing.
The rod casts a 6 and 7 weights equally well. I’ve used this rod for two seasons, and it’s just a superb taper for (surprise, surprise) a drift boat. It allows you to lift line off the water and reposition the fly with such ease and accuracy. Great roll caster as well.
Bill