Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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I've had my '79 for about 40 years, the bronze/brass ferrules are doing fine. I like it for throwing hoppers with a #6 which I will be doing this afternoon.
Of the Sharpes rods, I particularly like the 7' #5, and consider them very good value for the money.
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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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40yrs ago Sharpe's added an 87 (8ft 7ins) to their staggered ferrule series, the Royal Tribute, issued to celebrate the wedding of Diana & Charles. Only 100 were made, No's 1 & 2 went to the Royal couple but I also have a pair, mint & unfished (I have other Sharpes rods that do see the water), mine could now be the scarcest Sharpes fly rods :-O

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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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One I've never seen before is currently on eBay UK: 7', 2/1, spliced, no line rating, unusual reel seat for a short Sharpe, and you'd call it a staggered ferrule (meaning sections of unequal length), but for the fact that it is spliced. Seems to be a custom job, and I wonder what the customer was thinking?

BTW MaccFly, you're not the only member with a Royal Tribute, see post #10 in this thread, but I guess 2 beats 1 :)

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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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pontiac787 wrote:
07/10/13 17:32
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the purpose of having two different length pieces with an extender?
The shorter butt section along with the extender equals the length of the longer tip and protects the tip during transport. Most European rods of an age only came with one tip and with a canvas rod bag, no tube, hence the need to protect the tip.

For further information on the excellent staggered ferrule design search Charles Ritz.

I have in the past relinquished my ownership of Sharpes, Constable and P&M rods, shoulda’ kept them!😩

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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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I have a couple Constable Wallop Brooks which were also staggered ferrule - I did not see the Sharpes version when I lived there.

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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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Random Casts wrote:
05/03/22 16:56
pontiac787 wrote:
07/10/13 17:32
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the purpose of having two different length pieces with an extender?
The shorter butt section along with the extender equals the length of the longer tip and protects the tip during transport. Most European rods of an age only came with one tip and with a canvas rod bag, no tube, hence the need to protect the tip.
...
You do realize that you responded to a nine year old thread? And that the actual answer to the question is "to not have a ferrule where you want the rod to bend the most."

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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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redietz wrote:
05/04/22 07:04
Random Casts wrote:
05/03/22 16:56
pontiac787 wrote:
07/10/13 17:32
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the purpose of having two different length pieces with an extender?
The shorter butt section along with the extender equals the length of the longer tip and protects the tip during transport. Most European rods of an age only came with one tip and with a canvas rod bag, no tube, hence the need to protect the tip.
...
You do realize that you responded to a nine year old thread? And that the actual answer to the question is "to not have a ferrule where you want the rod to bend the most."
The next sentence in that response which doesn’t appear in your quote says it all. Isn’t that what Charles Ritz and a host of later European rod makers advocated?🥸

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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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redietz wrote:
05/04/22 07:04
And that the actual answer to the question is "to not have a ferrule where you want the rod to bend the most."
I think it’s a bit more complicated than that. After all, a 3 piece rod would serve that purpose.

Incidentally, one strand of the history suggests staggered ferrule rods were first developed in England by Terry Thomas, who, as I understand it, worked with Milwards and Edgar Sealey, in developing staggered ferrule rods in both cane and glass. He was also an angling writer and co-host of a popular TV angling programme, back in the day.

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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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Folks--
Is it true that the Sharpes 83, 85, and 88 all used the same tip tapers and only differed in the butt section? I read this somewhere and now I can't find it, so maybe I dreamed it. If true, it would have been a good idea.
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Re: Is this the scarcest Sharpes fly rod?

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so I'm scrolling thru the index, and I think "Why is he afraid of his rod … I've got a couple, but I don't remember being frightened by them … maybe a little startled when I actually won an auction, but not really frightened … "

note to self: check date of follow-up w/ ophthalmologist

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