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fishnbanjo |
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The most faithful rendition of this taper I have cast (I have an original) was made by John Gallas..............
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pvansch1 |
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I must toss another in the ring!!
Marcelo Caviello "Guru Rod" Having had plenty of oportunity to cast this rod, it's a fantastic casting machine, from short to long. Accurate and straight casts. Pete
"Listen to the river sing sweet songs to rock my soul" Grateful Dead |
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fishnbanjo |
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Pete,
I agree, but it's a one of a kind!
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Alaric11 |
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I'm strongly considering going parabolic. Hopefully you will test the parabolic waters first. I suppose there is no harm in having one such rod come what may. I have two parabolic rods both Maurer's the Old Philosopher and the Queen of the Waters. I LOVE both and I don't find either difficult to cast. Perhaps this is due to the fact that they are both based on the (reputedly) more user friendly Perfectionist taper. I find them soothing to fish with and quite powerful rods in terms of distance and hucking junk. .
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CtKenC |
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If I can add one more vote, and cheat by 3 inches, I'd add my Summers 735 ..... at 7'3" it handles a 5wt TT line perfectly (
to me).
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gooseberryrods |
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If I were you, I'd get myself a nice easy casting Garrison/Jenkins taper in the length you desire and you'll never look back. Regarding the Payne
parabolic, the one I tried was very powerful and I could not throw a tight loop with it to save my life... a nice rod but not what I would call practical
unless I was fishing big water and big bushy dries or wets. I would not be able to use it on the streams I fish which tend to be 20-30' in width and
require the ability to control loops. I also give high regard to the Granger taper 7030 which is also an easy casting rod. Just my two cents.
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Dread Pirate Robert.fiberglassflyro... |
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At 7'2" I like the Driggs River taper by Paul Young ~~ but then again I seem to be partial to Paul Young tapers.
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quashnet |
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I have refrained from posting because everyone knows I'm going to say "Paul Young Driggs taper," so what good does that do you? But, as banjo
mentioned, I did stop in to see him last weekend, and I lawn cast half the contents of Pandora's Box, and learned an awful lot, most of which can be summed
up in the statement that banjo owns a ton of unbelievable bamboo. That E.W. Edwards Autograph Deluxe Perfection is a shocker. You pick up this dark, delicate
little rod and you think, "Well this is going to be a quaint historical experience," and you make a bit of a backcast, bring the rod forward and the
rod gives a little parabolic - well, you can't call it a "kick," it's more like a smooth shifting of gears - and all of a sudden line is
pouring off the tip of the rod, but it's all happening so smoothly. There's no sense of parabolic power here, but somehow the tip of the line has
reached the bush on the far side of the lawn, and you realize that a rod built over seventy years ago has just made obsolete all your ideas about seven-foot
rods. You examine the tip of this rod, knowing before you even take a look at it that the tip is going to taper down very fine in the last few inches. Sneaky
Mr. Edwards.
And then banjo hands you the 7'9" Payne Parabolic and when you backcast and then bring the rod forward you DO feel the tip very clearly "kick" into gear in a more pronounced manner, but with a slight delay compared to a Driggs. If you are used to a Driggs then for a millisecond you think, "Where's the parabolic..?" and then BAM! there it is and the tip of the line has again reached the bush. And banjo is laughing because you are standing there, staring at the stick in your hand. And then since you know what the Payne can do for distance, you try flicking the line around the lawn, targeting dry leaves at various distances, and the rod is accurate at all those distances. And THEN banjo starts dragging out Dickersons and Thomases and, instead of making your head spin, he shows you the interrelationships of design, contrasting and comparing the work of various makers, so that you actually start casting your OWN rods better, the ones you have fished for years and thought you knew so well. So if you ever find a little Edwards Autograph Deluxe Perfection, then I think you are sitting pretty in the seven-foot rod category. But a Driggs is pretty good too.
Quashnet's Paul H. Young Rod Database has photos and descriptions of over
365 PHY Co. rods, plus catalogs, accessories, etc. Thank you to all
who continue to send me PHY rod photos and info.
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riverfloggin |
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There is an Orvis 7/3 for sale for $550 on this site. Does anybody have any experience with that particular taper? Any info/PM's are appreciated.
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creakycane |
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Forget the Orvis 7/3 - very slow, more a special purpose 2 wt, no-wind, VERY small fly rod.
The Summers 75 is in a sense a modification of the original Driggs, to good effect. It's an improvement in that it is more pleasant to fish and is probably Summers best rod in between the midges and the 856. But there are many poor renditions of the Driggs RS out there, so beware of that taper in general - those semi-para rods go from sweet to loggy/tip heavy/unresponsive in a hurry when the tapers are modified or rendered by different individuals. I'd stick with Garrison tapers unless you know what you want in a semi-para and can cast a few before buying.... |
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bobbeegee |
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I particularly like Alaric11' s description of why he likes the Garrison 201 taper so very much.
Never had the opportunity to fish a Garrison taper, that I'm aware, but would like to give it a try! His words would ring true for why I like my 7' Thramer rendition of the Heddon Model 50 built on the 0 1/2F ferrule. Of course this taper is not exclusive to the Model 50, it would run the gamut of 7' 0 1/2F models built by Heddon. I like a rod that becomes an extension of my arm while fishing. A rod that accomplishes what I want it to do, without any thought of such. My 50 does that for me. It's also a beauty in the looks department. Bob Go Heels!!!
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PA Limestoner |
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My favorite spring creek PA rod is a Maxwell era 38M4. It is a nice combination action, with the small fly delicacy that the 38 DF gives, but the stronger mid
and butt that the 38H delivers. All of these I have ever cast were pleasantly surprising in the long casts that are possible. The tip section works well in
close, while the butt takes over with more line out. Smooth.
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Chip Node |
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I fish four different 7' 4wt's:
Ruhe Dickerson 7012 a Young influence 7' 2pc para a Payne influenced 7' 3pc a convex tapered 7' 2pc Each one is different, I like the 7012 on small streams using 6 & 7x tippet with size 16 to 22 dries. The Para makes a great rod for chuming beetles, allows me to slap size 10 to 16 air resistant flies with 5x tippet on the surface bring up some of the largest fish of the year. The payne influenced 3pc was designed for really small streams where often only a couple of feet and leader are past the tip tip, it has that smooth progressive feel. Last but not least the convex taper, it has a that smooth progressive feel but incredible design strength. I have been very impressed with it's abilities this year! But since I have to pick one, My Favorite is the one that I started with - Dickerson's 7012! Tim |
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appgap |
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I have 3 faves:
Jennings 7' 3/2 - sweet medium action and great compact size. Beautiful finish. Garrison 204 - just an outstanding taper; Can really really throw some line but very deft when needed Edwards Quadrate 41 - fun, fun, fun to fish and very cool looking (Dartmouth finish) |
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Flyman615 |
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I would echo the comments on the Granger 7030 and PHY Driggs tapers.
I too enjoy both very much. But recently I found an enigma of a little rod by L.W. Samson that has me fascinated. It's the best 7-foot taper I've had for a WF-5-F, hands down. And BTW, I second the notion of "forgetting" the Orvis 7/3. If you don't, I'll bet you'll inevitably wish you had! Regards, Flyman |
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upthecreek |
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My 7'-7'3' Rods: Zimny. Wagner. Eden.
Steve V.
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slate river |
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I have to say that I really enjoy my Brackett era 7ft 3wt Winston. It is my favorite small stream dry fly rod for brookies and little wild browns. It has a
nice medium action with enough backbone to throw larger dries and dry/dropper combinations.
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greendrake ll |
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Flyman615 wrote:It's unanimous.The 7/3 tops my list of least favorite bamboo rod that I've ever had in my hands.In the early 80's I bought one( a Madison 2/1) and at the lowly sum of $90.00 I over paid!!!!
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riverfloggin |
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I'm into the Orvis 7/3 bashing, lets hear some vibrant description of why those rods are no good.
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Flyman615 |
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It's not a matter of bashing, IMO. It's a matter of performance or lack thereof. As Creaky wrote, this is a highly specialized rod at best.
At worst, which is most of the time, it is an inaccurate "noodle" of a rod that casts, I assume, not unlike one of Horsesho's asparagus rods...and I in no way wish to denigrate the latter. As for me, I owned a Battenkill grade 7/3 so I speak from some experience. I got rid of it quickly after trying ever so hard to find situations in which it would fish admirably...I simply couldn't. And I live for small streams. That said, I currently own 12 other Orvis rods. IMHO the 7/3 is a very specialized taper that just doesn't work in most common fly fishing situations for most anglers. I sincerely hope these comments are vibrant enough for you!
Regards again, Flyman |
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