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Posts: 182 08/21/2009 16:16 |
Anyone out there still tying a Braided Ginger Quill Nymph, long shank #14? Anyone willing to get a rod maker out of the dog house with his Mother? It's
her favorite fly and she can't find them anywhere. She's still fishing at 81 and I don't want to give her any excuse to quit!
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Posts: 199 08/21/2009 21:44 |
Mike,is that a woven pattern? If it's a woven fly, I'll whip up a few for you, but it almost looks like two different patterns you have
photographed. One fly looks like it has palmered hackle towards the rear of the hook shank and the other doesn't . You can see some of the woven flies I do
on my profile page under flies. Email me at kayak fly fisher @ yahoo . com .( No spaces.) and maybe I can get some more specifics.
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Posts: 248 08/21/2009 22:39 |
Whewww, these are a treat
 I think this took me 45 minutes, and its
still unacceptable! Looks like maybe yours are tyed with floss or silk? I used cotton cross-stitch stuff my wife saves for me. Its a little too fuzzy. The
thorax is a nightmare to get the taper shaped properly, wonder if they used lead to build it up so high?
 
I wouldn't want to do a dozen of these, god bless the guy who does. No wonder they are so hard to find  CJ
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Posts: 200 08/22/2009 00:38 |
Which brings up a good question. How heavily weighted were the ones you had?
Catskilljohn, that looks good. I build up and taper the underbodies on woven flies with size A tying thread and then move down to a 8/0 to tie off the headwhen I'm done. For the weaving, if you want to, you could use rayon embroidery floss, which is less fuzzy, or use dubbing wax to tame the fuzz on the cotton floss before you weave.
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Posts: 723 08/22/2009 02:35 |
Those look like the old Hank Roberts hellgramite-style flies from CO. They used floss for the woven body. Bet you could locate some old ones on the internet.
Dan Bailey's Mossback flies were similar and they might still be making those.
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Posts: 15 08/22/2009 08:09 |
The top one's a Hank Roberts ginger quill nymph. The bottom one's a copy. I had two up until a week or so ago when I sent them out to a guy in
Lakewood, CO who wanted to tie some. He sells flies on the J. Stockard fly market, so once he gets the pattern to the point where he's satisfied with it,
he may sell them as well. Anyway, it's probably worth contacting him. Here's the thread on the Flytying forum: http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php?showtopic=45440 Send him a PM (join if you need to).
In his blog he writes "Hank Roberts tied his flies with a different set of proportions, I'm tying mine with a more standard set of proportions." If your mother wants flies true to the original, you might want to specify that when you contact him. edited to add: I just sent him a PM with a link to this thread - as close to an introduction as I can give you.
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royalwulff |
Hank Roberts woven flies. | #6 | ||
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Posts: 183 08/22/2009 13:18 |
CMStwrt
You are correct, the flies she has came from Hank Roberts shop from the mid 60's. My mother had about 3 doz. and now only has 2 left. If any of you fly tyers are into tying 2 doz. give me a call @800-354-5050 and we can workout the details. |
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oldschoolcane |
braided nymphs | #7 | ||
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Posts: 109 08/25/2009 11:06 |
I'd like to try tying a few of the braided nymph patterns, can the tyers here suggest any good reference material to help me get started?
Tim "B'ionn gach tosach lag." Every beginning is weak. |
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2 Bead Pupa |
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Posts: 306 08/25/2009 15:24 |
This one has many different weaving techniques. http://www.amazon.com/Fly-Tiers-Benchside-Reference/dp/1571881263
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flyslinger |
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Posts: 201 08/25/2009 16:12 |
Oliver Edward has a DVD that beautifully illustrates different weaving techniques. It is a bit pricey, but worth it. The DVD title is "Essential Patterns
with Oliver Edwards, Woven Flies volume 2.
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Posts: 2984 08/25/2009 17:29 |
Please excuse my ignorance, are woven flies the same as "furled" flies?
Bob Go Heels!!! |
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Posts: 202 08/25/2009 17:55 |
To me furled implies twisted as in a "furled" leader. It is done by twisting and putting a tension on the twisted components that holds it together. I have heard that ropes are furled and cords are woven but over a core, but I don't know if that is a steadfast rule of thumb. Woven flies are either done with a series of knots (overhand knot weave) or "lashing" the strands of thread with one over another to hold them in place. I've never heard of a furled fly, but I guess the original serendipity with the zelon twisted and then palmered could be considered furled. Clear as mud?
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oldschoolcane |
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Posts: 111 08/26/2009 14:26 |
Here's a good link for those that may be interested.
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/ Search for; Advanced Fly Tying:
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Posts: 2244 08/29/2009 08:39 King of the Gnomes |
Mike,
samples are done and will go out today. call me and let me know which is on the right hook. Jeff P.S. I think it has been 20 years since I tied any braided GQ nymphs ;-) |
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Posts: 103 09/17/2009 03:57 |
Here is the lnk from above http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/advanced/archive.php
mark.computershop (at) gmail.com
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royalwulff |
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Posts: 187 09/17/2009 19:08 |
Thanks to everyone for your help and suggestions to keep my Mom fly fishing at 81! May we all be so lucky.
Hey Gnome ~ do you have any kind of tracking number for the samples you sent back on 8/29? Been to the PO every day and they haven't arrived. The 2 samples she gave me are on long shank #12 & #14. Much appreciated, Mike |
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Posts: 2259 09/17/2009 21:13 King of the Gnomes |
AArrggghhh!!!!! Post Office ARrrggghhh!!!!!!
I have 2 dozen just about done and they are on 4xl 14's and 12's Jeff |
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royalwulff |
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Posts: 188 10/07/2009 19:41 |
Jeff.
FLIES? You never told me how much. Give me a call. 800-354-5050 |
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Gnome |
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Posts: 2286 10/12/2009 08:26 King of the Gnomes |
Will deliver in person the end of this week, have your pile of gold pieces ready;-)
Jeff |
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royalwulff |
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Posts: 189 10/12/2009 12:53 |
Cool. See you then
Thanks, Mike |
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Posts: 330 10/14/2009 09:09 |
I loved woven bodies as a kid, back in the seventies. I wove everything, mainly because no one else was doing it and i couldn't tie a dry fly to save my
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I still carry a couple i tied back then, on size 24 hooks. I had much more time and ambition back then. |
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