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Mainiac	Nevros-Garrison comparision	#21	[url]	[-]
Posts: 571 07/22/2008 17:59	Here are a few photos of one of my Nevros rods. It is a 7 ft. 2/2 made in 1978. It was made with Garrison reelseat hardware. A little about Gus Nevros .... he started around 1970 in Long Island and made about 200 rods in his career as a builder. His most prolific years were in the late '70's-early '80's when he made rods for Eric Leiser's Fireside Angler. His rods cost about $600 in 1980 which was the same price T&T charged. Gus put about 100 hours into each hand planed rod. This included 6 coats of varnish he hand sanded. This has always puzzled me because his varnish work ended up as a very thin, albeit perfectly flat coat with sharp corners. Gus had a close association with Garrison. From what Gus has told me I would call it more of a "mentoring" rather than an "apprenticeship". Gus had a very loyal following and many of his customers owned 5-10 of his rods. His rods have always been coveted by their owners and are just now starting to make their way onto the secondary market after 30 years in private collections. Influenced by Garrison ? If given the opportunity examine one of his rods for yourself and draw your own conclusions. Last Edited By: Mainiac 07/25/2008 08:16. Edited 1 time.
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NorthBranch		#22	[url]	[-]
Posts: 84 07/23/2008 04:53	Mainiac, Wow....that Nevros is enough to drool over. Never seen one before. By the way, you gotta love it when Hoagy hops on here to chime in. Where else do you get to chat with the best in the craft like on this site!! CR
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Mainiac		#23	[url]	[-]
Posts: 572 07/23/2008 08:54	Northbranch, Thanks for the kind words about my Nevros. They really are an unknown commodity to most people outside of NY. That will change in the years to come. His lifetime production of 200 rods is significant enough to warrant notice. As I mentioned earlier, his work had a very loyal local following and most of his customers owned 5-10 or more of his rods. He used to hold court in his backyard and it was not uncommon to have a group of 5 guys casting into Gus's' in-ground pool several evenings a week. His rods have been concentrated in the collections of his patrons and very few have made their way onto the secondary market. It is just recently that this has begun to change. Before this year I had only seen about 4 of his rods offered for sale in the last 15 years. Gus is as nice a guy as you'll ever meet and I am grateful beyond words that I have had the chance to speak with him on several occasions and become friendly. He is very interested in the well being of his rods, where they have ended up, what condition they are in, if they are being used. He keeps tabs on them and records any new information in his record book. I guess if you put 100 hours of your life into something it becomes sort of like your child? Update- I just recently heard from Gus and I want to clarify something about him. He addressed , at length, his relationship with Everett Garrison. He insists that he never apprenticed under Garrison in any way. Gus was actually making rods before he even met Garrison. He called Garrison his "mentor" but nothing more. I apologize to Gus if I offended him by misrepresented the relationship. I was quoting what I believed to be an impeccable source regarding Gus learning some "things" from Garrison. Last Edited By: Mainiac 07/25/2008 08:19. Edited 2 times.
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greendrake ll		#24	[url]	[-]
Posts: 798 07/23/2008 10:38	Mainiac,Having repaired and/or restored bamboo rods for very near 40 years now and being a member of the rodmakers list and making rods for almost 6 yrs.,the name Gus Nevros is one that I have heard many times.That, however,is the first one I have had the pleasure of seeing!His reputation for building outstanding rods is obviously well deserved.You are very fortunate to own one of his rods and the fact that Garrisons' hands actually made the reelseat hardware,WOW,is about the only thing left for me to say.Thanks for sharing the pics.
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NorthBranch		#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 276 09/10/2009 14:43	Considering Hoagy's probably 60 or so. I am doubtful your rod was made by Hoagy considering it was made in 1906. Nice rod though...great condition for it's ago. No clue who the maker was, but its a baitcaster and not a fly rod. CR
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BobS		#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1137 09/10/2009 15:56	Mainiac: Do you know the meaning of the Greek characters on your rod? Thanks, Bob
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pcg		#27	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3363 09/10/2009 19:28 Admin	Charlie, good suggestion. Unfortunately an individual post can't be moved, only the entire thread. Perhaps the poster could copy the question into the appropriate section. The rod clearly is not a Carmichael.
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quashnet		#28	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2765 09/10/2009 21:27 Moderatus Muscae	The date of May 15, 1906 references U.S. patent no. 820,685 assigned to Charles H. Terry of Bristol, CT: "threaded wedges lock nut against sliding band." Mary Kefover Kelly said this patented feature is "commonly found" (U.S. Fishing Rod Patents, 1990). I believe this is a trolling rod, due to the trumpet guides and the shape of the tiptop. Quashnet's Paul H. Young Rod Database has photos and descriptions of over 530 PHY Co. rods, plus catalogs, accessories, etc. Thank you to all who continue to send me PHY rod photos and info.
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eric in dallas		#29	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 09/22/2009 22:49	Hoagy is a good man and great contributor to the community - this is known to all along the Beaverkill. And unlike Cory Ford, he is a reformed sinner and has quit poaching the bridge pool above the Brooklyn Club! (Cory can still be seen on New Moon evenings) God Bless you Hoagy! Eric in Dallas
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JJZ		#30	[url]	[-]
Posts: 113 02/23/2010 10:00	This was a great thread to read....deserves to be brought back and refreshed.
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matsoberg		#31	[url]	[-]
Posts: 472 02/23/2010 13:22	This thread is a highlight on this forum. As for the inspiration Mr. Carmichael spread with his book, I, myself, is very much part of the waves it made. My mentor Stefan Broms had made a few rods when it was realeased in 1977, but it was that book that really got him going and now I own his shop. I was also very fortunate to hear Mr. Carmichael telling the story in Sansepolcro, about his work and struggle with the book and to get it into print. Thanks Hoagy. I have often wondered where bamboo rodmaking had been today if the book hadn´t been released. http://www.scandcane.com/
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JJZ		#32	[url]	[-]
Posts: 114 02/23/2010 14:21	Matsoberg, that 204e tapered rod in the picture is stunning......
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