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cdmoore |
Do you fish a Silex? |
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What model? What era? What methods? What species? Fly fishing with double handles or ? Thanks, Chris
"If you finish in 7 days, I'll pay you for 10. If you finish in 10 days, I'll pay you for 7." ~Ballykissangel
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pcg |
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No, I own 5 Dingley Silex reels & 1 Hardy, but "fish" none of them. As I wrote Brian earlier today, they're close to the peak of reelmaking
art, and wonderful to admire. Fly reels in comparison are 1-cylinder engines (versus 8-cylinder Silexes).
Aside from the bird's nests & other joys these casting reels provide to the studious fisherman, the feet are anywhere from 3 to 3 3/8-inches long. Just try to find a rod less than 90 years old that accepts these biggies. Oh, I failed to mention the weight--these are all reels made for real men. :-)
One of us is crazy in fishing and forget time.
And the other take part only in the party at night. --Yoshikazu Fujioka |
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Bubba |
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I use 1930's Silex Supers for drift fishing for steelhead and salmon. Started out with a Superba in the early 70's
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speyrod |
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I'm in the process of trying to learn how to cast a center pin, and as pcg stated " they are full of wondrous bird nest & other joys" I'm
sure I have not even began to discover all the pitfalls that one can bring on oneself trying to master the blessed reels, all that before I've even tried
to land a steelhead with one. But it does provide other anglers with some comic relief & I'm getting better as I go along.
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Cadnorods |
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I fish them when salmon spinning (7 Dingley 'Silex', 2 'Hardy' Silex, and 3 Youngs type) and use Chris Lythe's centrepins when
'coarse' fishing, casting either 'off the reel' (Silex spinning cast) or 'Wallis casting'.
I've found that the best accoutrement one can carry is a round-ended dubbin needle in your lapel....to unpick the birds nests! Practice is the key...in the summer I was regularly getting past 80 yds with a 1 oz weight, using a Hardy LRH No1 rod. I did post some photos of 'the cast' in a previous thread: http://www.classicflyrodforum.com/reply/123538#reply-123538 To continue Pat's analogy, I'd say that the Dingley Rolo is getting on for 12 cylinders, with supercharger...a Rolls-Royce Merlin with line attached! Have fun, and enjoy the stares of the other anglers....they are all missing out. Stuart
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dblspey |
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I have a 5 bolt Super Silex that I have used for drift fishing when the water is too high for flies. It is a beautiful piece, the internals are amazing. When
playing a fish it feels and sounds just like a fly reel, but I much prefer fly fishing and use it very seldom.
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That looks to be the most ungraceful cast I have seen.
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greenwell |
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Nice one Christian,Anyone who as tried this cast will appreciate how tough it is to master keeping the reel in control all the time.
Great pictures of a great man. ChrisH. |
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oddsnrods |
Ahem... | #8 | ||
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As a boy, well up till my mid twenties, I fished the River Thames (in Cookham, Berkshire UK) with a centre pin reel delicately 'trotting' a float down
the stream for float for chub, roach and dace. This thread is about fishing Hardy Silex reels and has developed into fishing the centre pin (non Silex type)
reel Wallis style. A couple of points. The Silex is/was a spinning reel for river fish, namely atlantic salmon. It was the state -of- the- art reel of the day,
prior to the introduction of multipliers/baitcasters or decent fixed spool reels, the Silex's were expensive and mostly purchased by the wealthy
'gentry' who could afford to fish rivers like the Tay and the Spey in Scotland. Lures such as devon minnows were cast and (mostly) the river current
ensured that they revolved/worked when slowly retrieved, which is all one could do with a reel like the Silex. In still/lake type waters the reel was almost
useless for spining artificial lures. Wallis style is a casting style favoured by Brit. anglers casting out floats not great distances for small to medium
sized coarse fish on rivers of not too great a flow. It is relaxing and pleasant to do. The reels available at the time (30's, 40's and to some extent
the 50's) were of the caged frame design, like the Hardy Conquest and various others like the 'flick 'em' type Youngs reels. Pulling line off
and getting the reel to yeald line was the only way to cast any distance. Devotees of the Wallis style of casting pride themselves that they have mastered the
tricky technique of preventing the spool from revolving too fast creating a birds nest. Over the last 25 years I have seen float fishing develop in the Great
Lakes region of Ontario where I now live. It is high octane fishing with delicate float tackle for bruiser steelhead/rainbow trout. Reels are large diameter,
narrow, ball -bearing, often hand made cage -less centre pins. Coupled with long (13') lissom carbon float rods casting is very non Wallis like - the line
is held to the left of the spool so, when the rod is cast with the right arm, the line spills easily off the end of the spool as it flows through the hole
created where the tip of the index finger meets the tip of the thumb. Great distances can be easily cast, rivers are usually swift and casting and retrieving
are constant, Wallis style casting (and those old reels) is/are simply not up to the job as far as I am concerned, and I have yet to see another angler
practice the style. Silex reels (Super's especially) are popular fishing the West coast of Canada, the style of 'drift' fishing is very different
to what goes on around the Great Lakes. Tackle is usually much heavier with bottom bouncing with lead or large floats . Rods used are shorter as well. Yes I
fish Silex's and have each of the models (starting with the earliest of 1899/1910) apart from the Silex Jewel, I use them for trolling/flatlining from a
boat for Chinook salmon, no casting being involved. They are a joy to use and a pleasure to play fish on. Around here they would not be best used for that
delicate float fishing that I mentioned.
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Spey Salar |
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This has been interesting, as I've wondered exactly what Silex type reels were used for. They certainly are beautifully constructed and engineered.
Having read the thread, it seems like they might, in the smaller sizes, be great for trolling streamers on the surface after ice-out for landlocked salmon.
It's a very traditional way of fishing in Maine early season, and great fun to see a fish attack a Grey Ghost on the surface. Any thoughts as to using a
Silex for this--I could use a reason to acquire more reels.
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Bubba |
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Stil playing with the camera thought I'd post a few Super Silex's
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turtledoc |
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Russ -
"thought I'd post a few Super Silex's " Thank you for helping next time I plead my case that I've only bought a few reels........I always thought a few was 3 or 4 tops....but I guess it is 11
Nice grouping ! Mark B Something to consider: Be willing to share photos, information and the knowledge you have about your collection with anyone that has an interest in learning...........also share your knowledge to answer questions that others may have about items in their collections.........doing this will make you feel good and benefits this community ..................after all, what good is having knowledge that isn't shared. MEB |
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oddsnrods |
Fishing with Silex's | #12 | ||
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Not so much casting, but trolling off a local rivermouth for bruiser Chinook salmon. I think that I have most representative models of Silex's apart from
the 'Jewell'. Ones shown include: Major 4", Extra wide Super 4 1/4", Unused 4" Superba, couple of early Dingley made Silex, 80's
version and an early No. 2.
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Reeldane |
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This 4½" extra wide (Masheer) Silex Major (1928-30) with Aux. Brake have caught many huge salmon in River Namsen Norway.
Heinz
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