What's your favorite stone fly pattern--and why is it?
And pictures and recipes would be welcome in this discussion
Ben
And pictures and recipes would be welcome in this discussion
Ben
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Favorite stone fly
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 Ben Kann |
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Posts: 240 11/25/2009 16:27 |
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mer |
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Posts: 3316 11/25/2009 18:42 |
Yellow stimulator, size 12 works pretty well for me. Standard recipe available many place on line. Why? Because it works. Gink it up, upstream downstream, let
it get sucked under near rocks, skate it across the top, seems to be a good grasshopper pattern too.
Just my opinions, as stated previously if one disagrees or thinks I'm FOS, then just ignore anything I have to say...
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catskilljohn |
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Posts: 263 11/25/2009 19:53 |
I agree with mer, a Stimulator is a great fly. I love this thing as a searching pattern. These things stay high and dry in any water.
Many dont know that Jim Slattery originated this fly in NJ, and named it after a music band that was popular at the time. Here is a shot of one tyed by the man,  CJ
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tedgolden |
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Posts: 3095 11/25/2009 20:22 Moderator |
My favorite is Ted's Golden Stone.
I thought you'd never ask. |
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Ben Kann |
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Posts: 241 11/25/2009 23:04 |
I'm sure we all agree about the Stimulator (with or without rubber legs) but what I really meant was stone fly NYMPH. I've been tying and fishing a
double bead stone, Kaufmann's stone and Poul Jorgensen's stone and they all look pretty good and work about equally well. I'd like to move on to
newer, better territory so someone please show me something else (and Ted. if it really exists, what does your Ted's Golden Stone look like?)
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tedgolden |
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Posts: 3096 11/26/2009 14:59 Moderator |
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Posts: 1111 11/26/2009 15:21 Angry Andy |
The Montana Nymph has been my favorite as long as I can remember.
"You can't make new old friends"
 Andy
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redietz |
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Posts: 7 11/27/2009 16:05 |
It seems that I fish stonefly hatches more in late winter/ very early spring most frequently, so the Spanish Needles (light & dark) are probably my
favorites. For the little dark stones, I seem to clean up with a Dark Hendrickson wet. (I know, it doesn't look anything like a stonefly, but it really
works.)
There was a dry fly called the "Yellow Rose" that I use to buy at a long-defunct shop in Virginia that was an absolutely perfect yellow sally imitation. Unfortunately, I didn't save a copy to duplicate, figuring that I could remember what it looked like. I wish I could, then I would say that was my favorite.
Bob
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mer |
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Posts: 3317 11/27/2009 17:22 |
Sorry Ben, but I can't find the word nymph in the original post, that's why I said the Stimulator. Sorry if I got it wrong and ruined the thread.
Just my opinions, as stated previously if one disagrees or thinks I'm FOS, then just ignore anything I have to say...
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Tom Smithwick |
Effective stonefly | #9 | ||
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Posts: 542 11/27/2009 17:39 |
An old timer in the Poconos taught me this one. It's simple, but effective, even for me who is not much of a nymph fisherman. The tie and the photographs
leave a lot to be desired, sorry about that.
Thread - brown Tails - brown turkey biot rib - one strand of brown cotton embroidery yarn back and wingcase - dark turkey abdomen - light yellow fur thorax - medium brown fur legs - brown mottled flank feather hook - 3x long, tie a length of lead wire on either side of the shank to get a flat body.  
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Ben Kann |
I think you touched a nerve | #10 | ||
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Posts: 243 11/28/2009 14:35 |
Tom Smithwick wrote:Tom: your tie is far from where I'm trying to go but one aspect of it (the choice of leg feather and technique) may be my missing link. I'll post pix when I finally get a chance to pursue this further. Everyone: thanks. It all is food for thought. Any further comments, suggestions and opinions would be most welcome. |
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Posts: 23 11/28/2009 15:27 |
We do not have a massive number of large stones in this area. Despite that there are enought to make a stone nymphs almost always effective.
My choice (I'm a little biased) is the old Dette Yellow Stone. It just works and is very easy to tie. I also find this fly very effective in stillwater nymph fishing. 
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Ben Kann |
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Posts: 244 11/28/2009 16:53 |
mer wrote:Apology unneeded. The lack was my fault entirely. BTW - Do you fish only golden stone simulators or do you fish an occasional black stone as well? |
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Ben Kann |
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Posts: 245 11/28/2009 16:56 |
ashbourn12 wrote:Still looks like a good pattern, and in smaller sizes probably also does well for a yellow sally...? What do you think it represents in stillwater? |
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Ben Kann |
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Posts: 246 11/28/2009 17:21 |
tedgolden wrote:Drew That looks pretty close to where I'm going. How does it hold up in use? |
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mer |
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Posts: 3319 11/28/2009 18:55 |
Ben Kann wrote:In my waters, mostly a yellow Stimulator in size 12. Seems to work the best. Fooled around with some olive and dark gray in size 14 or so, they do ok. The yellow in size 12 works pretty well all year (found some nymphs of the right color and size on the rocks every year so I guess there's a population). When I've fished a nymph it's been roughly the Dette style as listed above. Weight them heavy, sink them fast, fish them on the bottom seems to work best.
Just my opinions, as stated previously if one disagrees or thinks I'm FOS, then just ignore anything I have to say...
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ashbourn12 |
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Posts: 25 09/03/2037 15:59 |
Ben Kann wrote: It can be tied for Yellow Sallys but it needs to be tied very thin to better match them. As for the stillwater, I have no idea. I had a group of kids in a program I was teaching at the Catskill Fly Fishing Center a few years ago. The river was blown out so we went over to the pond and I had mostly trout flies. By the end of the day that stone nymph out fished every other and I started everyone with something different. Since then it have proven it self time after time. Joe Fox |
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Posts: 190 11/28/2009 19:56 |
I was introduced to this stonefly nymph on my first trip to Creede, CO. The fly shop (Rio Grande Anglers) simply called it "the 20-incher", but I
don't know the history of the name or the fly. It has been very effective, for both rainbows and browns, when fishing the Rio Grande River. That's
why it has become my favorite. Since then, I haven't fished any other streams with good stonefly populations, but I bet this pattern will work on any
water with a good stonefly population. I wrap some lead weight on the front (behind the bead) and use dental floss to build a tapered underbody. After some
tweeking, here is the list of materials I now use:
Underbody: lead weight up front; dental floss on back half Thread: tan or black Tail: ginger biots Rib: embroidery floss (tan) Abdoman: peacock Thorax: dubbing (STS Trilobal Golden Stone) or your favorite brand Wing Case: pheasant body feather (coated with Pliobond) Legs: partridge body feather (dark) Bead: greenish-brown, black, or gold 
I usually fish it as a 2-fly rig with a smaller nymph/emerger tied 2 feet above (on a short dropper off the blood knot). Give it a try. Thanks- Ken
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crcaddis |
Stone fly | #18 | ||
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Posts: 351 12/02/2009 12:27 |
I usually go with a Pat's Rubberlegs...black, brown, gold, or olive. Cheers.
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creakycane |
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Posts: 2381 12/02/2009 15:37 |
I've fished and tyed many stonefly nymphs, but I don't find I really need much more than bigger and smaller Montana Stoneflies (maybe a few 8's and
some 12's) - the black and yellow chenille jobs. Weighted, they work as well as anything, and are easy to tie......
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tedgolden |
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Posts: 3105 12/02/2009 16:07 Moderator |
Ben, Ted's Golden Stone is quite durable. Sinks like a rock. I loose more of these to hang-ups than fish wear.
I admit I don't tye this pattern so can't offer any guidance. |
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