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Boo.fiberglassflyro... |
Going over the top.... |
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There are times, this being one of them, when a rod appears that I've been longing for but I know the price is a bit too much and the seller won't
budge. I don't want to pull the trigger....but hey, tis the season....no wait...that's ridiculous to pay that amount of money....what would the wife
say.....oh, come on do it just this once...I'll never do it again...It's killing me... How often have you wanted a rod soooo bad you were willing to
pay more than you know you should/more than what you believe is a rods true value, just because you "have to have it!"?
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Bakerloo |
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Buy it. Then the seller will spend the money. Then the people that he spends the money with will spend it. And so on....
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sharps4590 |
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I hope this situation isn't relegated to 'boo fly rods only.....guilty plead here.
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Paul B |
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I did the same with a bait casting rod once, paid well over the odds but six years later on that rod has helped catch me some very nice Pike and would now
sell for what I paid for it...........
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Slate Drake 9 |
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We'd all be much happier as consumers if everyone held their wallets tighter and waited until the price of whatever came down to a respectable level.
Problem is that there is always some yahoo out there that pays way too much for something (doesn't necessarily have to be a bamboo rod) that keeps the
prices higher than they ought to be. If people stopped buying, we'd see prices come back to a reasonable level on many things, not just bamboo rods.
Fishing with bait is like swearing in church.
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cdmoore |
He knows the price of everything and the value of none | #5 | ||
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Or something like that. This is a corollary of that old saying. You perceive the market price to be X. Have you checked with other knowledgeable folks to see
what their pricing thoughts are? Could you obtain X if you needed to sell the rod because you didn't like it as much as you thought you would, or because
you suddenly needed to take the wife on vacation to Portugal? From what you've said above, it appears that you are prepared to pay X. Is the wife OK with
X? The owner is charging X + n. I imagine n to be less than 50% of X, but can't be sure without more info. If that figure is correct, then to my way of
thinking, if you (and she) are willing to spend X, it seems very unlikely that n could really be that objectionable. Less likely as n decreases, more likely as
n increases. If you would willingly spend $2000 on a rod, then $3000, while significantly more, does not sound "crazy" to me. Same for a $500 rod
where the fellow is asking $750. Now, if n is going above 50% of the market price (confirmed by others) then that is, perhaps, another story. This is merely
rationalizing the price however. The real question is the value to you as the new owner and how you might ascribe price to that, or possibly overlook it. Ha!
Let's take that trip to Portugal as an example. Would $10k seem unreasonable for the benefits one hopes would accrue to you, your wife, and your
relationship from such a trip? (I am NOT suggesting you use this reasoning when you tell her you bought the rod--for obvious reasons, but also that n then
tends to sit like a busted tire on the runway leading to Portugal). Think of the days you would have on the stream with this rod. Maybe it would cause you to
get out more than you do, perhaps with friends and family. There's some good exercise in there somewhere, too. Plus, it would also stop you from pining
away over it (watch out for the next one), and free up the time you spent looking for it to dote on your wife. Too, you'd be able to hand it off or down
when the time eventually comes (or maybe even resell for X + n + y?). Are you going to let a price bump of n get in the way of the inherent value of owning
that rod? Did it stop you from getting that car when you were 23? And is there not some relatively painless way to come up with n? Sell off a few books that
you don't really need on the shelf? Get rid of a reel or even another rod that you don't use that often? A few extra lines sitting around that
you've been meaning to spool up? Can you tie flies and sell them to buddies at a more than fair price and let them know why you're doing it? That would
be cool that they knew they were helping you to obtain what you wanted and getting a good deal on flies tied by their pal in the mix. Or skip that second beer
at dinner out for the next 12 months. Or set up a holiday fund (no gifts, please, just cash) for those who traditionally send you stuff you don't really
need or want? Or I dunno. Pretty soon, n will be a mere speed bump on the way to fly fishing Quisisana. So long as you are already over the hump on X and n
isn't going to cause any abject harm, then my vote is to go for it. C
"If you finish in 7 days, I'll pay you for 10. If you finish in 10 days, I'll pay you for 7." ~Ballykissangel
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rsagebrush |
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You lived without it all this time - perhaps after a short time you won't even notice.
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Greg Reynolds |
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Way too much thinking going on here... If your not missing meals and the kids aren't running around without shoes, buy it. You won't remember the cost
in five years anyway.
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Boo.fiberglassflyro... |
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I don't want to make the thread about me. I was curious how often rods rods come up that people desire so much they are willing to pay extra in order to
get it?
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fishbum |
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Greg Reynolds wrote:Yep, too much thinking. Economics 101 tells us "the worth of an item is what someone is willing to give up for that item". If a product or survice is worth more to the seller than the buyer then it will go unsold. If it is worth more to the buyer than it is to the seller then it will be sold. Simple. It does not even matter what the cost to produce the item or what the CEO's wage's are. fishbum |
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thegubster |
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About the wife thingy.
Try this.."Sweetheart, I saw this really, really nice _______(fill in the blank) and I've always wanted it and....blah blah I really HAD to pull the trigger because...." If she blows up (and you know it's for real) tell her "Shucks, sweetie, I'm kidding. Sorry for the poor joke." If she doesn't....buy it! Worked for me just last week!
Jeremy. (who's back to living in the house now) |
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Greg Reynolds |
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Boo wrote:With regularity I'm sure. When the object of my desire is very hard to find, I've done it without regrets. Other times I've gotten tremendous bargains. It all balances out. |
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fishbum |
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thegubster wrote: Great plan Jeremy!! When I try something like that my wife just smiles and reminds me that she has the check book. What is a poor old fishbum to do? |
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Horace Benbow |
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In my case, never once have I paid more than I thought I could quickly recoup on resale. At the beginning and for a number of years it was because I wasn't
sure what I would like and wanted to try everything. Now that I've tried about everything and know better what I like (not that that doesn't change a
bit from time to time) it's because I know from experience that once the thrill of the purchase wears off, I'll have just another fly rod that will
provide no less but no more pleasure than the other fly rods I own and have owned in the past. It would doubtless be different if I were trying to assemble a
complete set of something or other, and, hence, had to have a particular rod, or had been persuaded that nothing could compare as a fishing tool to,
for example, an Opprobrium Model Nought, built between 1936 and 1938, but I'm not and I haven't been.
Last Edited By: Horace Benbow 11/29/2009 17:52.
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Flyman615 |
Here's the key... | #14 | ||
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Do you have some other "stuff" that you need less than the rod you're now coveting?
If the answer is "yes", then sell the stuff you don't need and buy the stuff you do. Simple, huh? Here's a corollary...is there something you have, but don't really like, that someone else would die for? Then trade it. You'd be surprised how easy it is to make yourself AND someone else happy! No kidding. I've been pursuing the above strategy for about a month now. The results have been excellent!!
Regards,
Flyman "There are three things in life that people like to stare at: a flowing stream, a crackling fire and a Zamboni clearing the ice."-Charlie Brown |
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Marty |
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Yes I've overpaid simply b/c I wanted/needed a particular rod/reel badly. As long as it gives you joy and doesn't deprive you of something you need
its fine. If you are trying to "invest" in rods its a different matter but collectibles as investments are as risky as anything else you might buy
with your $$$. While there are many things unpleasant about divorced life, it is nice to have complete executive and budgetary authority.......no committee
approval needed for rods or reels...and no need to sneak them in the house......
If its a rod you've wanted for a long time and want to use the price is irrelevant as long as it doesn't cause you pain.......5 years from now you won't remember what you paid and you'll still be fishing the rod/ looking at it in your collection with a smile on your face. |
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Rolf Jacobsen |
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Horace Benbow wrote:Yes! Brook Trout are God's way of reminding us everything is going to be all right. |
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doloresboy |
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Are you crazy? Everyone knows everything is going to come to a screeching halt on 12/21/2012. Buy it and enjoy it for 3 years.
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cdmoore |
I thought you were implying that you needed moral support | #18 | ||
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If you just wanted to know how often...everyone I've spoken to on this board has done it at least once. Hell, shoot first, ask questions later. C
"If you finish in 7 days, I'll pay you for 10. If you finish in 10 days, I'll pay you for 7." ~Ballykissangel
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cti111 |
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If you really want it (collecting or to fish) & you have the means, then go for it! Life is too short not to enjoy what you love doing.
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searun |
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cti111 wrote: Your wisdom far surpasses your number of posts on the forum, cti111! I wholeheartedly agree, I say go for it as well. Even if you sell it later at a loss consider it as nothing more than a cheap rental. Life IS short. |
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