Hands down my Jennings 8', 3-pce 5-wt. Sublime!
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What's Your Favorite 8' 5wt?
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 tight loops |
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Posts: 322 01/26/2010 11:39 |
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Posts: 144 01/26/2010 12:18 |
Fishing where I do, the upper Manistee river in Michigan, I have no experience with #7 fish, and not a lot with the #2's. This is home to small difficult fish.
But my nod would go to the 8013, the 8014/GS are at least a line weight or two heavier and better suited to the leviathans on the upper end of your scale. |
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Posts: 463 01/26/2010 13:34 |
Very nice response and pictures guys. You give me a lot to think about. Thanks.
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hdrmd |
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Posts: 68 01/26/2010 15:30 |
I like the Payne 201. DR
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greendrake ll |
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Posts: 1173 01/26/2010 20:15 |
Not to hijack this thread but it has been mentioned that the Goodwin Granger 8040 is a 4wt but the Wright-McGill Granger 8040 is a 5wt.
Why? Did they change the taper after W&M bought the co.? I can't imagine why the same model would jump a whole line weight without some serious modification to the taper measurments. TIA |
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Posts: 235 01/26/2010 20:40 |
cutthroattroutnm wrote: Ah...yes, Mike that Dickerson 8014 sure is special. I remember that day and the big rainbow. I spotted him and you caught him. A great day. Bob |
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Posts: 140 01/27/2010 01:13 |
Winston (Brackett) 8' 5 wt 3/2 @ 4 1/8 oz. works well enough for me.
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JHolton |
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Posts: 116 01/27/2010 12:12 |
I am certainly no expert, but I do not think that the Granger tapers were changed significantly between the Goodwin and W-M periods. In fact, the Granger 8040 (4 wt) that I mentioned was made by W-M. I know some would argue the point, but to me there is little to no difference between rods made during the Goodwin Granger and Bill Phillipson period (1924-42) and those made after W-M took over. There may be some unintended differences in the final years of cane rod production in the early 1950's due to less attention to quality and more to the bottom line, but I can't really say for sure. As for line weight, I think it depends a great deal on personal preference and the specific brand of line and whether it is a DT or WF. When my wife fishes 5 wt rods, she generally perfers to use a 6 wt line. I often prefer a line weight lower or higher than the rod was designed for, just depends on the rod. Also, most of my current lines are modern plastics the have been purchased in the last few years, a time when many line makers have upsized their specs by about half a line weight to handle ultra-fast graphites. I think the answer is to try several lines and fish what feels good. A rod that is only OK sometimes changes to pure magic with the right line.
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rlnunleycom |
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Posts: 630 01/27/2010 12:40 |
Mine!
 Bob |
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Boonut |
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Posts: 466 01/27/2010 13:30 |
I wasn't going to say anything, but maybe I should. I bought an 8013 once and hated it. Maybe I got a bad version, but it fell apart at 45'. It felt good until then, but I had no idea what it was going to do beyond 45'. I consider myself a pretty good caster, but far from an expert. I might have thought it was me or the version I was using until Carlin said he feels the same thing.
I know the 8013 is a popular taper and Dickerson knew what he was doing, but this taper confuses me. Do any of you feel the same as I do, or am I screwed up in my thinking? |
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czkid |
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Posts: 4160 01/27/2010 17:17 Moderator |
For a mean machine to handle anything heavy... PHY Para 15 (the real thing). For something a bit less demanding then Mike Brook's McKinzie Special. The Para15 should be the one with wet/dry tips... then you are fully prepared. The PHY solution isn't inexpensive.... just good. |
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Posts: 1757 01/27/2010 19:31 |
Boo
the first thing to remember about the 8013 is that there were at least 9 versions that Dickerson made. Then add to that the fact that others that copy his taper may add or subtract a little something in there work and then the unknown stuff. Gule, climate, cane, heating, ect. . . After saying all of that its the #4 rod on the list of greatest rods from the survey of Rod Makers taken not to long ago and his 7613 was #3. I picked the 8012 and the 7613 when it came time to select a Dickerson clone for myself. I think the 8013 should be able to cast 75' with ease, you may have had a lemon, or should I say a broom stick.
Last Edited By: WatercolorMan 01/31/2010 05:24.
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bobbeegee |
Please forgive me Boo | #33 | ||
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Posts: 3438 01/27/2010 19:43 |
if I'm stepping on your thread?
Alan, Will you please direct me to this list of greatest tapers as suggested by bamboo rod builders? I'm most interested in reading that. Bob |
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Posts: 1288 01/27/2010 20:11 Deeply Shallow |
slate river wrote: How come you don't put me on fish. For what's it's worth I cast a 8013 Dickerson once and wasn't that impressed with it but Dickerson tapers aren't consistent with my casting style. ( which equals no style). |
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slate river |
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Posts: 236 01/27/2010 21:02 |
Andre,
I've seen you cast and you are much too modest. When you come out to Colorado this summer I will show you where the big boys live, and if you want to I'll let you fish my old Sage 8'6" RPL graphite if that will help. Bob |
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kermit |
My only 8' 5wt rod's | #36 | ||
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Posts: 894 01/29/2010 20:19 |
Dickerson 8013. No, Reams hollow built 8' 3/2. No, Leonard Maxwell 50 DF. No, it's got to be my 7'11" Bradford Legacy. Aaaah....., does it count if it isn't quite 8'? Ric
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Boonut |
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Posts: 468 01/30/2010 12:21 |
paxlev wrote:It counts if you let me fish it next season. btw... Leonard 8013? |
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flyroddb |
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Posts: 30 01/30/2010 19:36 |
A toss-up between a Weber-Edwards quad and a Dickerson clone 8013 that I made for myself.
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cutthroattroutnm |
You did more than that... | #40 | ||
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Posts: 99 01/30/2010 20:26 |
..., you gave me the fly, pointed out the drift, and netted it. All I had to do was make sure that "pilot error" didn't occur. Next summer, he'll be at 23".
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